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Arun C Murthy 2012-02-16, 15:38
Interesting, thanks for sharing. Are you planning on contributing any of these back to Apache Hadoop? Also, hadoop-0.23.1 significantly outperforms hadoop-1 (previously hadoop-0.20.xxx) on both framework (map/reduce task launch) and runtime (sort, shuffle etc.). Also makes it much easier to implement Distributed Worker Pool with the newer MRv2 (YARN) architecture. We would love to have you involved and to contribute back. Arun On Feb 16, 2012, at 7:01 AM, Anty wrote: > Hi: Guys > We just deliver a optimized hadoop , if you are interested, Pls > refer to https://github.com/hanborq/hadoop> > -- > Best Regards > Anty Rao -- Arun C. Murthy Hortonworks Inc. http://hortonworks.com/
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Arun C Murthy 2012-02-16, 15:38
Hi Arun, Just curious, could you please give a quick hint about why 0.23.1 performs much better in shuffle phase? Any significant changes from prior version? Thanks, Ethan On Thu, Feb 16, 2012 at 9:38 AM, Arun C Murthy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Interesting, thanks for sharing. > > Are you planning on contributing any of these back to Apache Hadoop? > > Also, hadoop-0.23.1 significantly outperforms hadoop-1 (previously > hadoop-0.20.xxx) on both framework (map/reduce task launch) and runtime > (sort, shuffle etc.). Also makes it much easier to implement Distributed > Worker Pool with the newer MRv2 (YARN) architecture. We would love to have > you involved and to contribute back. > > Arun > > On Feb 16, 2012, at 7:01 AM, Anty wrote: > > > Hi: Guys > > We just deliver a optimized hadoop , if you are interested, Pls > > refer to https://github.com/hanborq/hadoop> > > > -- > > Best Regards > > Anty Rao > > -- > Arun C. Murthy > Hortonworks Inc. > http://hortonworks.com/> > >
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brisk 2012-02-28, 21:08
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Schubert Zhang 2012-02-16, 17:44
Todd Lipcon 2012-02-16, 19:27
Hey Schubert, Looking at the code on github, it looks like your rewritten shuffle is in fact just a backport of the shuffle from MR2. I didn't look closely - are there any distinguishing factors? Also, the OOB heartbeat and adaptive heartbeat code seems to be the same as what's in 1.0? -Todd On Thu, Feb 16, 2012 at 9:44 AM, Schubert Zhang <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Here is the presentation to describe our job, > http://www.slideshare.net/hanborq/hanborq-optimizations-on-hadoop-mapreduce-20120216a> Wellcome to give your advises. > It's just a little step, and we are continue to do more improvements, thanks > for your help. > > > > > On Thu, Feb 16, 2012 at 11:01 PM, Anty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >> Hi: Guys >> We just deliver a optimized hadoop , if you are interested, Pls >> refer to https://github.com/hanborq/hadoop>> >> -- >> Best Regards >> Anty Rao > > -- Todd Lipcon Software Engineer, Cloudera
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Todd Lipcon 2012-02-16, 19:27
Hi: Todd yes, the rewritten shuffle in actual a backport of the shuffle from MR2 . We mainly add the following two features: 1) shuffle avoidance 2) work pool On Fri, Feb 17, 2012 at 3:27 AM, Todd Lipcon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hey Schubert, > > Looking at the code on github, it looks like your rewritten shuffle is > in fact just a backport of the shuffle from MR2. I didn't look closely > - are there any distinguishing factors? > Also, the OOB heartbeat and adaptive heartbeat code seems to be the > same as what's in 1.0? > > -Todd > > On Thu, Feb 16, 2012 at 9:44 AM, Schubert Zhang <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Here is the presentation to describe our job, > > > http://www.slideshare.net/hanborq/hanborq-optimizations-on-hadoop-mapreduce-20120216a> > Wellcome to give your advises. > > It's just a little step, and we are continue to do more improvements, > thanks > > for your help. > > > > > > > > > > On Thu, Feb 16, 2012 at 11:01 PM, Anty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> > >> Hi: Guys > >> We just deliver a optimized hadoop , if you are interested, Pls > >> refer to https://github.com/hanborq/hadoop> >> > >> -- > >> Best Regards > >> Anty Rao > > > > > > > > -- > Todd Lipcon > Software Engineer, Cloudera > -- Best Regards Anty Rao
Schubert Zhang 2012-02-17, 04:25
1) it should be sort-avoidance. 2) work pool (like Tenzing) Sorry ,the adaptive heartbeat code is not in this github code, we are discussing it. On Fri, Feb 17, 2012 at 11:00 AM, Anty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi: Todd > > yes, the rewritten shuffle in actual a backport of the shuffle from MR2 . > We mainly add the following two features: > 1) shuffle avoidance > 2) work pool > > > On Fri, Feb 17, 2012 at 3:27 AM, Todd Lipcon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> Hey Schubert, >> >> Looking at the code on github, it looks like your rewritten shuffle is >> in fact just a backport of the shuffle from MR2. I didn't look closely >> - are there any distinguishing factors? >> Also, the OOB heartbeat and adaptive heartbeat code seems to be the >> same as what's in 1.0? >> >> -Todd >> >> On Thu, Feb 16, 2012 at 9:44 AM, Schubert Zhang <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> wrote: >> > Here is the presentation to describe our job, >> > >> http://www.slideshare.net/hanborq/hanborq-optimizations-on-hadoop-mapreduce-20120216a>> > Wellcome to give your advises. >> > It's just a little step, and we are continue to do more improvements, >> thanks >> > for your help. >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > On Thu, Feb 16, 2012 at 11:01 PM, Anty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >> >> >> Hi: Guys >> >> We just deliver a optimized hadoop , if you are interested, Pls >> >> refer to https://github.com/hanborq/hadoop>> >> >> >> -- >> >> Best Regards >> >> Anty Rao >> > >> > >> >> >> >> -- >> Todd Lipcon >> Software Engineer, Cloudera >> > > > > -- > Best Regards > Anty Rao >
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Schubert Zhang 2012-02-17, 04:25
Todd Lipcon 2012-02-17, 18:07
On Thu, Feb 16, 2012 at 8:25 PM, Schubert Zhang <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > 1) it should be sort-avoidance. right - that's a nice improvement, looking forward to getting that in trunk at some point. > 2) work pool (like Tenzing) > Looking at the code, it seems you only support the default task executor. Do you have plans to support run-as-user through the linux task-controller? It's a requirement for secure environments. But, it makes the worker pool model a little tougher since you can't share a JVM cross-user. Also, how does class-unloading and reloading interact with this model? > Sorry ,the adaptive heartbeat code is not in this github code, we are > discussing it. > > > > On Fri, Feb 17, 2012 at 11:00 AM, Anty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >> Hi: Todd >> >> yes, the rewritten shuffle in actual a backport of the shuffle from MR2 . >> We mainly add the following two features: >> 1) shuffle avoidance >> 2) work pool >> >> >> On Fri, Feb 17, 2012 at 3:27 AM, Todd Lipcon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>> >>> Hey Schubert, >>> >>> Looking at the code on github, it looks like your rewritten shuffle is >>> in fact just a backport of the shuffle from MR2. I didn't look closely >>> - are there any distinguishing factors? >>> Also, the OOB heartbeat and adaptive heartbeat code seems to be the >>> same as what's in 1.0? >>> >>> -Todd >>> >>> On Thu, Feb 16, 2012 at 9:44 AM, Schubert Zhang <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>> wrote: >>> > Here is the presentation to describe our job, >>> > >>> > http://www.slideshare.net/hanborq/hanborq-optimizations-on-hadoop-mapreduce-20120216a>>> > Wellcome to give your advises. >>> > It's just a little step, and we are continue to do more improvements, >>> > thanks >>> > for your help. >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > On Thu, Feb 16, 2012 at 11:01 PM, Anty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>> >> >>> >> Hi: Guys >>> >> We just deliver a optimized hadoop , if you are interested, Pls >>> >> refer to https://github.com/hanborq/hadoop>>> >> >>> >> -- >>> >> Best Regards >>> >> Anty Rao >>> > >>> > >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Todd Lipcon >>> Software Engineer, Cloudera >> >> >> >> >> -- >> Best Regards >> Anty Rao > > -- Todd Lipcon Software Engineer, Cloudera
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Todd Lipcon 2012-02-17, 18:07
On Fri, Feb 17, 2012 at 3:27 AM, Todd Lipcon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hey Schubert, > > Looking at the code on github, it looks like your rewritten shuffle is > in fact just a backport of the shuffle from MR2. I didn't look closely > additionally, the rewritten shuffle in MR2 has some bugs, which harm the overall performance, for which I have already file a jira to report this, with a patch available. MAPREDUCE-3685 < https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/MAPREDUCE-3685>> - are there any distinguishing factors? > Also, the OOB heartbeat and adaptive heartbeat code seems to be the > same as what's in 1.0? > > -Todd > > On Thu, Feb 16, 2012 at 9:44 AM, Schubert Zhang <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Here is the presentation to describe our job, > > > http://www.slideshare.net/hanborq/hanborq-optimizations-on-hadoop-mapreduce-20120216a> > Wellcome to give your advises. > > It's just a little step, and we are continue to do more improvements, > thanks > > for your help. > > > > > > > > > > On Thu, Feb 16, 2012 at 11:01 PM, Anty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> > >> Hi: Guys > >> We just deliver a optimized hadoop , if you are interested, Pls > >> refer to https://github.com/hanborq/hadoop> >> > >> -- > >> Best Regards > >> Anty Rao > > > > > > > > -- > Todd Lipcon > Software Engineer, Cloudera > -- Best Regards Anty Rao
Schubert Zhang 2012-02-20, 18:17
We just update the slides of this improvements: http://www.slideshare.net/hanborq/hanborq-optimizations-on-hadoop-mapreduce-20120216aUpdates: (1) modified some describes to make things more clear and accuracy. (2) add some benchmarks to make sense. On Sat, Feb 18, 2012 at 11:12 PM, Anty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > On Fri, Feb 17, 2012 at 3:27 AM, Todd Lipcon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> Hey Schubert, >> >> Looking at the code on github, it looks like your rewritten shuffle is >> in fact just a backport of the shuffle from MR2. I didn't look closely >> > > additionally, the rewritten shuffle in MR2 has some bugs, which harm the > overall performance, for which I have already file a jira to report this, > with a patch available. > MAPREDUCE-3685 < https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/MAPREDUCE-3685>> > > >> - are there any distinguishing factors? >> Also, the OOB heartbeat and adaptive heartbeat code seems to be the >> same as what's in 1.0? >> >> -Todd >> >> On Thu, Feb 16, 2012 at 9:44 AM, Schubert Zhang <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> wrote: >> > Here is the presentation to describe our job, >> > >> http://www.slideshare.net/hanborq/hanborq-optimizations-on-hadoop-mapreduce-20120216a>> > Wellcome to give your advises. >> > It's just a little step, and we are continue to do more improvements, >> thanks >> > for your help. >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > On Thu, Feb 16, 2012 at 11:01 PM, Anty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >> >> >> Hi: Guys >> >> We just deliver a optimized hadoop , if you are interested, Pls >> >> refer to https://github.com/hanborq/hadoop>> >> >> >> -- >> >> Best Regards >> >> Anty Rao >> > >> > >> >> >> >> -- >> Todd Lipcon >> Software Engineer, Cloudera >> > > > > -- > Best Regards > Anty Rao >
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Schubert Zhang 2012-02-20, 18:17
Sharad Agarwal 2012-02-17, 11:18
I have some work pool related thoughts for MRv2 which are captured here: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/MAPREDUCE-3315Please feel free to add your inputs and contributions. Sharad > > > On Fri, Feb 17, 2012 at 9:55 AM, Schubert Zhang <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> 1) it should be sort-avoidance. >> 2) work pool (like Tenzing) >> >> Sorry ,the adaptive heartbeat code is not in this github code, we are >> discussing it. >> >> >> >
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Sharad Agarwal 2012-02-17, 11:18
Schubert Zhang 2012-02-23, 10:49
@Todd, Yes, in our first code tag, we intendedly keep away from the security and user-control feature. It is because in our existing deploys of production solutions in enterprise field, this feature is always turned off. I think it may be mainly because of the different business model between Hanborq and others. But, we really have plan to completely compat with Apache and Cloudera in the future. For the worker-pool implementation, it is true we will continue to improve our solution.... Schubert Zhang Looking at the code, it seems you only support the default task executor. Do you have plans to support run-as-user through the linux task-controller? It's a requirement for secure environments. But, it makes the worker pool model a little tougher since you can't share a JVM cross-user. On Wed, Feb 22, 2012 at 7:34 PM, Dieter Plaetinck < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Great work folks! Very interesting. > > PS: did you notice if you google for "hanborq" or HDH it's very hard to > find your website, hanborq.com ? > > Dieter > > On Tue, 21 Feb 2012 02:17:31 +0800 > Schubert Zhang <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > We just update the slides of this improvements: > > > http://www.slideshare.net/hanborq/hanborq-optimizations-on-hadoop-mapreduce-20120216a> > > > Updates: > > (1) modified some describes to make things more clear and accuracy. > > (2) add some benchmarks to make sense. > > > > On Sat, Feb 18, 2012 at 11:12 PM, Anty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > On Fri, Feb 17, 2012 at 3:27 AM, Todd Lipcon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > > > > >> Hey Schubert, > > >> > > >> Looking at the code on github, it looks like your rewritten shuffle is > > >> in fact just a backport of the shuffle from MR2. I didn't look closely > > >> > > > > > > additionally, the rewritten shuffle in MR2 has some bugs, which harm > the > > > overall performance, for which I have already file a jira to report > this, > > > with a patch available. > > > MAPREDUCE-3685 < https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/MAPREDUCE-3685>> > > > > > > > > > > >> - are there any distinguishing factors? > > >> Also, the OOB heartbeat and adaptive heartbeat code seems to be the > > >> same as what's in 1.0? > > >> > > >> -Todd > > >> > > >> On Thu, Feb 16, 2012 at 9:44 AM, Schubert Zhang <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > >> wrote: > > >> > Here is the presentation to describe our job, > > >> > > > >> > http://www.slideshare.net/hanborq/hanborq-optimizations-on-hadoop-mapreduce-20120216a> > >> > Wellcome to give your advises. > > >> > It's just a little step, and we are continue to do more > improvements, > > >> thanks > > >> > for your help. > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > On Thu, Feb 16, 2012 at 11:01 PM, Anty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > >> >> > > >> >> Hi: Guys > > >> >> We just deliver a optimized hadoop , if you are interested, > Pls > > >> >> refer to https://github.com/hanborq/hadoop> > >> >> > > >> >> -- > > >> >> Best Regards > > >> >> Anty Rao > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> -- > > >> Todd Lipcon > > >> Software Engineer, Cloudera > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > Best Regards > > > Anty Rao > > > > >
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Schubert Zhang 2012-02-23, 10:49
Schubert Zhang 2012-02-23, 11:01
Thanks Dieter, Any comment is welcome. Hehe, Hanborq Inc. is a small and low profile company, enen though we have been in hadoop ecosystem for 4+ years. In fact, we were working hard and busy in resolving big data problems of big enterprises, in china. Of cause, we were also finding our business model. I think our home page site (www.hanborq.com) is very simple and ungainly now, it seems we should get a guy who is good at website. :-) But if you Google "Hanborq Hadoop", "Hanborq MapReduce", you may get you want. Thanks On Wed, Feb 22, 2012 at 7:34 PM, Dieter Plaetinck < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Great work folks! Very interesting. > > PS: did you notice if you google for "hanborq" or HDH it's very hard to > find your website, hanborq.com ? > > Dieter > > On Tue, 21 Feb 2012 02:17:31 +0800 > Schubert Zhang <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > We just update the slides of this improvements: > > > http://www.slideshare.net/hanborq/hanborq-optimizations-on-hadoop-mapreduce-20120216a> > > > Updates: > > (1) modified some describes to make things more clear and accuracy. > > (2) add some benchmarks to make sense. > > > > On Sat, Feb 18, 2012 at 11:12 PM, Anty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > On Fri, Feb 17, 2012 at 3:27 AM, Todd Lipcon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > > > > >> Hey Schubert, > > >> > > >> Looking at the code on github, it looks like your rewritten shuffle is > > >> in fact just a backport of the shuffle from MR2. I didn't look closely > > >> > > > > > > additionally, the rewritten shuffle in MR2 has some bugs, which harm > the > > > overall performance, for which I have already file a jira to report > this, > > > with a patch available. > > > MAPREDUCE-3685 < https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/MAPREDUCE-3685>> > > > > > > > > > > >> - are there any distinguishing factors? > > >> Also, the OOB heartbeat and adaptive heartbeat code seems to be the > > >> same as what's in 1.0? > > >> > > >> -Todd > > >> > > >> On Thu, Feb 16, 2012 at 9:44 AM, Schubert Zhang <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > >> wrote: > > >> > Here is the presentation to describe our job, > > >> > > > >> > http://www.slideshare.net/hanborq/hanborq-optimizations-on-hadoop-mapreduce-20120216a> > >> > Wellcome to give your advises. > > >> > It's just a little step, and we are continue to do more > improvements, > > >> thanks > > >> > for your help. > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > On Thu, Feb 16, 2012 at 11:01 PM, Anty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > >> >> > > >> >> Hi: Guys > > >> >> We just deliver a optimized hadoop , if you are interested, > Pls > > >> >> refer to https://github.com/hanborq/hadoop> > >> >> > > >> >> -- > > >> >> Best Regards > > >> >> Anty Rao > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> -- > > >> Todd Lipcon > > >> Software Engineer, Cloudera > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > Best Regards > > > Anty Rao > > > > >
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Schubert Zhang 2012-02-23, 11:01
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