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Re: [DISCUSS] Spin out MR, HDFS and YARN as their own TLPs and disband Hadoop umbrella project
Eli Collins 2012-08-30, 05:38
On Wed, Aug 29, 2012 at 4:19 PM, Mattmann, Chris A (388J)
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi Eli,
>
> On Aug 29, 2012, at 11:41 AM, Eli Collins wrote:
>
>> Thanks for writing up a proposal Chris.
>
> NP.
>
>>
>> I think it makes sense to have Common live in HDFS at least for now,
>> since it's at the bottom of the stack / dependency chain and it's code
>> is the most intertwined with common, and, per Arun, we tend to work on
>> common stuff more than MR people. The HDFS project is really a lot
>> more than HDFS, eg has all the hadoop commands, non-HDFS file system
>> source, etc but that seems like an OK starting point. We need to
>> figure out the committers and PMC though since the goal is to just
>> have the HDFS community (vs the current Hadoop people) but the project
>> will contain non-HDFS stuff. I'd like to hear from the current Hadoop
>> committers and PMC members that mostly work on MR and YARN - are you
>> guys OK losing your current privileges on the HDFS repo?
>
> Rather than ask the former question that way, I would just simply put up
> a list of proposed HDFS PMC folks (yes, I keep using PMC ^_^). Then,
> iterate on that.
>
>> Otherwise we
>> haven't made much progress (ie HDFS still has multiple communities).
>
> ACK.
>
>>
>> We also need to address the areas where it's not so cut and dry, eg
>> where there is a single Hadoop project:
>> - The Hadoop trademark, assume this lives in the HDFS project if Common does?
>
> Apache owns the Hadoop trademark, and the PMC helps to enforce it. Projects
> don't own trademarks.

But which PMC does "the PMC" refer to though given that there is no
longer a Hadoop PMC?