I would like to see a 0.19.2 release soon.

0.19.2 appears to be stalled.  I would like to see the stalled items pushed to 19.3 and a release of the more important items already fixed soon.  Most of the more important fixes are already released in 0.20.0 . . .

http://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/HADOOP/fixforversion/12313650

19.2 currently has 20 Critical fixes that were resolved or closed since 19.1 and many other important improvements.
Many open issues have not been touched in a month or more.

I have been hit by the following fixed issues recently, and indications based on comments in the core-user mailing list is that I'm not alone:

http://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/HADOOP-5465
http://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/HADOOP-5241
http://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/HADOOP-5231
http://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/HADOOP-5269

Its probably safe to say that using the 0.19.2 unreleased branch right now is probably a much more stable and safe version than the released 0.19.1.

http://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/IssueNavigator.jspa?reset=true&&pid=12310240&fixfor=12313650&resolution=-1&sorter/field=priority&sorter/order=DESC

The main issues pending are appends / sync() related and should be moved off to 19.3 - or forever as recent comments indicate this may wait until 0.21.

Additionally many of the current open tickets have patches and are close to being closed out.  Yet, 75%  of these haven't been touched in 3+ weeks.

Thanks,

-Scott

Scott Carey wrote:
> I would like to see a 0.19.2 release soon.

Any committer can build a release candidate and call a release vote.
Are there any committers sympathetic to Scott who would like to
volunteer to drive the 0.19.2 release forward?  I think Y! skipped
directly from 0.18 to 0.20, and so is less inclined to make 0.19 releases.

Doug

Yes, my previous message is really a question as to the status of the 0.19 branch in the community.
If it is essentially dead, I'd like to know ASAP and figure out how to migrate elsewhere soon.  If it has life left, it looks ripe for another cut.

Rolling backwards to 0.18 faces several problems., and its unclear if 0.20 is better or worse than 0.19.1.

Thanks All,

-Scott

On 5/27/09 12:49 PM, "Doug Cutting" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Scott Carey wrote:
> I would like to see a 0.19.2 release soon.

Any committer can build a release candidate and call a release vote.
Are there any committers sympathetic to Scott who would like to
volunteer to drive the 0.19.2 release forward?  I think Y! skipped
directly from 0.18 to 0.20, and so is less inclined to make 0.19 releases.

Doug

Hey Scott,

We use 0.19.1 (plus some patches) heavily.  The other CMS sites use  
the same version -- represents about 600TB of user community :)

I'd be interested in seeing a 0.19.2 released.  I was kind of hoping  
lasting for a few months more on 0.19.x and then skip to 0.21.x prior  
to LHC startup.

Brian

On May 27, 2009, at 3:09 PM, Scott Carey wrote:

> Yes, my previous message is really a question as to the status of  
> the 0.19 branch in the community.
> If it is essentially dead, I'd like to know ASAP and figure out how  
> to migrate elsewhere soon.  If it has life left, it looks ripe for  
> another cut.
>
> Rolling backwards to 0.18 faces several problems., and its unclear  
> if 0.20 is better or worse than 0.19.1.
>
> Thanks All,
>
> -Scott
>
> On 5/27/09 12:49 PM, "Doug Cutting" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Scott Carey wrote:
>> I would like to see a 0.19.2 release soon.
>
> Any committer can build a release candidate and call a release vote.
> Are there any committers sympathetic to Scott who would like to
> volunteer to drive the 0.19.2 release forward?  I think Y! skipped
> directly from 0.18 to 0.20, and so is less inclined to make 0.19  
> releases.
>
> Doug
>

If no one else does, I'll roll 0.18.4, 0.19.2, and 0.20.1 next week.

-- Owen

Brian Bockelman wrote:
> Hey Scott,
>
> We use 0.19.1 (plus some patches) heavily.  The other CMS sites use the
> same version -- represents about 600TB of user community :)

presumably this means you have enough of a cluster to do some testing on
an RC?

> I'd be interested in seeing a 0.19.2 released.  I was kind of hoping
> lasting for a few months more on 0.19.x and then skip to 0.21.x prior to
> LHC startup.

So you've got geneva to hold back on going live until 0.21.x is stable?

On May 28, 2009, at 5:35 AM, Steve Loughran wrote:

> Brian Bockelman wrote:
>> Hey Scott,
>> We use 0.19.1 (plus some patches) heavily.  The other CMS sites use  
>> the same version -- represents about 600TB of user community :)
>
> presumably this means you have enough of a cluster to do some  
> testing on an RC?

Yup, we've got one you could take out for a spin -- one of the HDFS  
installs is fairly sizable, but doesn't hold anything important yet.

>
>> I'd be interested in seeing a 0.19.2 released.  I was kind of  
>> hoping lasting for a few months more on 0.19.x and then skip to  
>> 0.21.x prior to LHC startup.
>
> So you've got geneva to hold back on going live until 0.21.x is  
> stable?

;) You have to remember that we're relatively very small in a very big  
picture.  That statement was just one of optimism about the 0.21.x  
schedule.

Brian

On May 27, 2009, at 4:08 PM, Owen O'Malley wrote:

> If no one else does, I'll roll 0.18.4, 0.19.2, and 0.20.1 next week.
>
> -- Owen
>
Owen
   wouldn't it be better for the community to learn how to dot  
releases when Yahoo does not.
sanjay

I am still interested in seeing a 0.19.2 release soon.  The 0.19.2-dev and 0.18.4-dev branches have been close to dormant for over a month, yet contain many critical fixes.
With the Yahoo distribution out there, 0.20.1 is a slightly lower priority for me.  Additionally, several other components are not yet 0.20.x compatible anyway.
What does the rest of the community think?

-Scott

On 5/27/09 4:08 PM, "Owen O'Malley" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

If no one else does, I'll roll 0.18.4, 0.19.2, and 0.20.1 next week.

-- Owen

I want to feed some mapside join patches in, time to get off my duff and
submit them :)
On Mon, Jun 15, 2009 at 12:33 PM, Scott Carey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote:

> I am still interested in seeing a 0.19.2 release soon.  The 0.19.2-dev and
> 0.18.4-dev branches have been close to dormant for over a month, yet contain
> many critical fixes.
>
>
> With the Yahoo distribution out there, 0.20.1 is a slightly lower priority
> for me.  Additionally, several other components are not yet 0.20.x
> compatible anyway.
>
>
> What does the rest of the community think?
>
> -Scott
>
> On 5/27/09 4:08 PM, "Owen O'Malley" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> If no one else does, I'll roll 0.18.4, 0.19.2, and 0.20.1 next week.
>
> -- Owen
>
>
--
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http://www.amazon.com/dp/1430219424?tag=jewlerymall
www.prohadoopbook.com a community for Hadoop Professionals

Hi,

I would also be interested in having a 0.19.2 release, or even more
releases.

If you are starting to run your cluster, you don't know which version you
should take. Some releases were unstable (eg taskstrackers running out of
memory, or executing maps sequentially after a certain number of jobs,
multifileoutputformat not working with threads, ..). If we are upgrading to
a major version number, we are nearly always hitting a bug which makes our
system unreliable.

Also now with yahoo's release of their own version, what happens if I use
that version? Will there be more releases after that one from yahoo? Can I
migrate my cluster back to the official branch afterwards without losing
data?

Thibaut

jason hadoop wrote:
>
> I want to feed some mapside join patches in, time to get off my duff and
> submit them :)
>
>
> On Mon, Jun 15, 2009 at 12:33 PM, Scott Carey
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote:
>
>> I am still interested in seeing a 0.19.2 release soon.  The 0.19.2-dev
>> and
>> 0.18.4-dev branches have been close to dormant for over a month, yet
>> contain
>> many critical fixes.
>>
>>
>> With the Yahoo distribution out there, 0.20.1 is a slightly lower
>> priority
>> for me.  Additionally, several other components are not yet 0.20.x
>> compatible anyway.
>>
>>
>> What does the rest of the community think?
>>
>> -Scott
>>
>> On 5/27/09 4:08 PM, "Owen O'Malley" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>
>> If no one else does, I'll roll 0.18.4, 0.19.2, and 0.20.1 next week.
>>
>> -- Owen
>>
>>
>
>
> --
> Pro Hadoop, a book to guide you from beginner to hadoop mastery,
> http://www.amazon.com/dp/1430219424?tag=jewlerymall
> www.prohadoopbook.com a community for Hadoop Professionals
>
>

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