This is the topic of:

https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-2733

I may have stalled things a bit, misunderstanding which uses of
Confluence were in doubt at the ASF.

Doug

I'm dealing with this with gmcdonald again now that cutting has clarified
things.

For everyone that wants access, please email me your confluence username and
I'll put together a single list and add it to INFRA-2733 (rather than
everyone updating that ticket with a single username).

If you don't have a confluence account already, you can create one here:

     https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/dashboard.action

I will put the list of usernames on the ticket in about 24 hours.

 - Bruce

On Tue, Jun 1, 2010 at 3:44 AM, Doug Cutting <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> This is the topic of:
>
> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-2733
>
> I may have stalled things a bit, misunderstanding which uses of Confluence
> were in doubt at the ASF.
>
> Doug
>

And one other thing ... gmcdonald asked that if people can use their Apache
usernames when creating Confluence accounts, that would be helpful.

 - Bruce

On Tue, Jun 1, 2010 at 1:37 PM, Bruce Mitchener
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote:

> I'm dealing with this with gmcdonald again now that cutting has clarified
> things.
>
> For everyone that wants access, please email me your confluence username
> and I'll put together a single list and add it to INFRA-2733 (rather than
> everyone updating that ticket with a single username).
>
> If you don't have a confluence account already, you can create one here:
>
>      https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/dashboard.action
>
> I will put the list of usernames on the ticket in about 24 hours.
>
>  - Bruce
>
>
> On Tue, Jun 1, 2010 at 3:44 AM, Doug Cutting <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>> This is the topic of:
>>
>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-2733
>>
>> I may have stalled things a bit, misunderstanding which uses of Confluence
>> were in doubt at the ASF.
>>
>> Doug
>>
>
>

Can you clarify what is meant by Apache username?  E.g.  'scottcarey'  or  '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'?   I created a confluence account with the latter, but can make one with the former and discard the one I just created.

-Scott

On May 31, 2010, at 11:39 PM, Bruce Mitchener wrote:

> And one other thing ... gmcdonald asked that if people can use their Apache
> usernames when creating Confluence accounts, that would be helpful.
>
> - Bruce
>
> On Tue, Jun 1, 2010 at 1:37 PM, Bruce Mitchener
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote:
>
>> I'm dealing with this with gmcdonald again now that cutting has clarified
>> things.
>>
>> For everyone that wants access, please email me your confluence username
>> and I'll put together a single list and add it to INFRA-2733 (rather than
>> everyone updating that ticket with a single username).
>>
>> If you don't have a confluence account already, you can create one here:
>>
>>     https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/dashboard.action
>>
>> I will put the list of usernames on the ticket in about 24 hours.
>>
>> - Bruce
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Jun 1, 2010 at 3:44 AM, Doug Cutting <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>
>>> This is the topic of:
>>>
>>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-2733
>>>
>>> I may have stalled things a bit, misunderstanding which uses of Confluence
>>> were in doubt at the ASF.
>>>
>>> Doug
>>>
>>
>>

I've asked for clarification on this but haven't heard yet ...

I was assuming 'scottcarey' (and I'm 'brucem' already in Confluence).

 - Bruce

On Tue, Jun 1, 2010 at 1:49 PM, Scott Carey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Can you clarify what is meant by Apache username?  E.g.  'scottcarey'  or
>  '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'?   I created a confluence account with the
> latter, but can make one with the former and discard the one I just created.
>
> -Scott
>
> On May 31, 2010, at 11:39 PM, Bruce Mitchener wrote:
>
> > And one other thing ... gmcdonald asked that if people can use their
> Apache
> > usernames when creating Confluence accounts, that would be helpful.
> >
> > - Bruce
> >
> > On Tue, Jun 1, 2010 at 1:37 PM, Bruce Mitchener
> > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote:
> >
> >> I'm dealing with this with gmcdonald again now that cutting has
> clarified
> >> things.
> >>
> >> For everyone that wants access, please email me your confluence username
> >> and I'll put together a single list and add it to INFRA-2733 (rather
> than
> >> everyone updating that ticket with a single username).
> >>
> >> If you don't have a confluence account already, you can create one here:
> >>
> >>     https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/dashboard.action
> >>
> >> I will put the list of usernames on the ticket in about 24 hours.
> >>
> >> - Bruce
> >>
> >>
> >> On Tue, Jun 1, 2010 at 3:44 AM, Doug Cutting <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
> >>
> >>> This is the topic of:
> >>>
> >>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-2733
> >>>
> >>> I may have stalled things a bit, misunderstanding which uses of
> Confluence
> >>> were in doubt at the ASF.
> >>>
> >>> Doug
> >>>
> >>
> >>
>
>

Well, I've got one of each now.  If asfinfra wishes to they can delete one.
And I can see the brand new Avro confluence space. :)
-Scott
On Jun 1, 2010, at 12:06 AM, Bruce Mitchener wrote:

> I've asked for clarification on this but haven't heard yet ...
>
> I was assuming 'scottcarey' (and I'm 'brucem' already in Confluence).
>
> - Bruce
>
> On Tue, Jun 1, 2010 at 1:49 PM, Scott Carey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>> Can you clarify what is meant by Apache username?  E.g.  'scottcarey'  or
>> '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'?   I created a confluence account with the
>> latter, but can make one with the former and discard the one I just created.
>>
>> -Scott
>>
>> On May 31, 2010, at 11:39 PM, Bruce Mitchener wrote:
>>
>>> And one other thing ... gmcdonald asked that if people can use their
>> Apache
>>> usernames when creating Confluence accounts, that would be helpful.
>>>
>>> - Bruce
>>>
>>> On Tue, Jun 1, 2010 at 1:37 PM, Bruce Mitchener
>>> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote:
>>>
>>>> I'm dealing with this with gmcdonald again now that cutting has
>> clarified
>>>> things.
>>>>
>>>> For everyone that wants access, please email me your confluence username
>>>> and I'll put together a single list and add it to INFRA-2733 (rather
>> than
>>>> everyone updating that ticket with a single username).
>>>>
>>>> If you don't have a confluence account already, you can create one here:
>>>>
>>>>    https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/dashboard.action
>>>>
>>>> I will put the list of usernames on the ticket in about 24 hours.
>>>>
>>>> - Bruce
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Tue, Jun 1, 2010 at 3:44 AM, Doug Cutting <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> This is the topic of:
>>>>>
>>>>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-2733
>>>>>
>>>>> I may have stalled things a bit, misunderstanding which uses of
>> Confluence
>>>>> were in doubt at the ASF.
>>>>>
>>>>> Doug
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>
>>

Status:

 * Confluence wiki created, I have access along with Scott Carey so far.
 * Send me usernames and I'll get everyone else added.
 * I've updated the web site source materials but have NOT pushed it as I
can not run Forrest currently.
 * Someone else should run Forrest and push the site after confirming that
the wiki links work.
 * How do we kill off the old wiki?
 * Can we set up a redirect from the old wiki to the new wiki?
 * Someone else should finish fixing up the syntax on the "How to
Contribute" page as I did not finish that yet.

 - Bruce

On Tue, Jun 1, 2010 at 2:22 PM, Scott Carey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Well, I've got one of each now.  If asfinfra wishes to they can delete one.
>
>
> And I can see the brand new Avro confluence space. :)
>
>
> -Scott
>
>
> On Jun 1, 2010, at 12:06 AM, Bruce Mitchener wrote:
>
> > I've asked for clarification on this but haven't heard yet ...
> >
> > I was assuming 'scottcarey' (and I'm 'brucem' already in Confluence).
> >
> > - Bruce
> >
> > On Tue, Jun 1, 2010 at 1:49 PM, Scott Carey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
> >
> >> Can you clarify what is meant by Apache username?  E.g.  'scottcarey'
>  or
> >> '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'?   I created a confluence account with the
> >> latter, but can make one with the former and discard the one I just
> created.
> >>
> >> -Scott
> >>
> >> On May 31, 2010, at 11:39 PM, Bruce Mitchener wrote:
> >>
> >>> And one other thing ... gmcdonald asked that if people can use their
> >> Apache
> >>> usernames when creating Confluence accounts, that would be helpful.
> >>>
> >>> - Bruce
> >>>
> >>> On Tue, Jun 1, 2010 at 1:37 PM, Bruce Mitchener
> >>> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> I'm dealing with this with gmcdonald again now that cutting has
> >> clarified
> >>>> things.
> >>>>
> >>>> For everyone that wants access, please email me your confluence
> username
> >>>> and I'll put together a single list and add it to INFRA-2733 (rather
> >> than
> >>>> everyone updating that ticket with a single username).
> >>>>
> >>>> If you don't have a confluence account already, you can create one
> here:
> >>>>
> >>>>    https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/dashboard.action
> >>>>
> >>>> I will put the list of usernames on the ticket in about 24 hours.
> >>>>
> >>>> - Bruce
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> On Tue, Jun 1, 2010 at 3:44 AM, Doug Cutting <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>> This is the topic of:
> >>>>>
> >>>>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-2733
> >>>>>
> >>>>> I may have stalled things a bit, misunderstanding which uses of
> >> Confluence
> >>>>> were in doubt at the ASF.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Doug
> >>>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>
> >>
>
>

And FYI, this is the diff that I committed for the web site:

Index: site.xml
==================================================================--- site.xml (revision 949968)
+++ site.xml (working copy)
@@ -38,8 +38,8 @@
   </resources>

   <external-refs>
-    <wiki      href="http://wiki.apache.org/hadoop/Avro" />
-    <faq       href="http://wiki.apache.org/hadoop/Avro/FAQ" />
+    <wiki      href="https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/AVRO/Index"
/>
+    <faq       href="https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/AVRO/FAQ"
/>
     <nightly   href="http://hudson.zones.apache.org/hudson/job/Avro-trunk/"
/>
     <releases  href="http://www.apache.org/dyn/closer.cgi/avro/" />
     <privacy   href="http://hadoop.apache.org/privacy_policy.html"/>
Index: index.xml
==================================================================--- index.xml (revision 949968)
+++ index.xml (working copy)
@@ -22,7 +22,7 @@
   the <a href="mailing_lists.html">mailing lists</a>,
   report <a href="issue_tracking.html">bugs</a>, retrieve code from
   the <a href="version_control.html">version control</a> system, and make
-  <a href="http://wiki.apache.org/hadoop/Avro/HowToContribute
">contributions</a>.</p>
+  <a href="
https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/AVRO/How+To+Contribute
">contributions</a>.</p>

   </body>

Index: tabs.xml
==================================================================--- tabs.xml (revision 949968)
+++ tabs.xml (working copy)
@@ -15,6 +15,6 @@
   -->

   <tab label="Project" dir="" />
-  <tab label="Wiki" href="http://wiki.apache.org/hadoop/Avro" />
+  <tab label="Wiki" href="
https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/AVRO/Index" />

 </tabs>

 - Bruce

On Tue, Jun 1, 2010 at 4:09 PM, Bruce Mitchener
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote:

> Status:
>
>  * Confluence wiki created, I have access along with Scott Carey so far.
>  * Send me usernames and I'll get everyone else added.
>  * I've updated the web site source materials but have NOT pushed it as I
> can not run Forrest currently.
>  * Someone else should run Forrest and push the site after confirming that
> the wiki links work.
>  * How do we kill off the old wiki?
>  * Can we set up a redirect from the old wiki to the new wiki?
>  * Someone else should finish fixing up the syntax on the "How to
> Contribute" page as I did not finish that yet.
>
>  - Bruce
>
> On Tue, Jun 1, 2010 at 2:22 PM, Scott Carey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote:
>
>> Well, I've got one of each now.  If asfinfra wishes to they can delete
>> one.
>>
>>
>> And I can see the brand new Avro confluence space. :)
>>
>>
>> -Scott
>>
>>
>> On Jun 1, 2010, at 12:06 AM, Bruce Mitchener wrote:
>>
>> > I've asked for clarification on this but haven't heard yet ...
>> >
>> > I was assuming 'scottcarey' (and I'm 'brucem' already in Confluence).
>> >
>> > - Bruce
>> >
>> > On Tue, Jun 1, 2010 at 1:49 PM, Scott Carey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> wrote:
>> >
>> >> Can you clarify what is meant by Apache username?  E.g.  'scottcarey'
>>  or
>> >> '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'?   I created a confluence account with the
>> >> latter, but can make one with the former and discard the one I just
>> created.
>> >>
>> >> -Scott
>> >>
>> >> On May 31, 2010, at 11:39 PM, Bruce Mitchener wrote:
>> >>
>> >>> And one other thing ... gmcdonald asked that if people can use their
>> >> Apache
>> >>> usernames when creating Confluence accounts, that would be helpful.
>> >>>
>> >>> - Bruce
>> >>>
>> >>> On Tue, Jun 1, 2010 at 1:37 PM, Bruce Mitchener
>> >>> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>>> I'm dealing with this with gmcdonald again now that cutting has
>> >> clarified
>> >>>> things.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> For everyone that wants access, please email me your confluence
>> username
>> >>>> and I'll put together a single list and add it to INFRA-2733 (rather
>> >> than
>> >>>> everyone updating that ticket with a single username).
>> >>>>
>> >>>> If you don't have a confluence account already, you can create one
>

Hi Bruce,

Can you grant me access as well? My Apache id is thiru.

Thanks

Thiru

-----Original Message-----
From: Bruce Mitchener [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, June 01, 2010 2:39 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: What is the status of moving from MoinMoin to Confluence? EOM

Status:

 * Confluence wiki created, I have access along with Scott Carey so far.
 * Send me usernames and I'll get everyone else added.
 * I've updated the web site source materials but have NOT pushed it as I
can not run Forrest currently.
 * Someone else should run Forrest and push the site after confirming that
the wiki links work.
 * How do we kill off the old wiki?
 * Can we set up a redirect from the old wiki to the new wiki?
 * Someone else should finish fixing up the syntax on the "How to
Contribute" page as I did not finish that yet.

 - Bruce

Thanks, Bruce.  Please add my apache account: massie.  I'll take a look
later to see about pushing the website changes.

-Matt
On Tue, Jun 1, 2010 at 7:56 PM, Thiruvalluvan M. G. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote:

> Hi Bruce,
>
> Can you grant me access as well? My Apache id is thiru.
>
> Thanks
>
> Thiru
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Bruce Mitchener [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Tuesday, June 01, 2010 2:39 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: What is the status of moving from MoinMoin to Confluence? EOM
>
> Status:
>
>  * Confluence wiki created, I have access along with Scott Carey so far.
>  * Send me usernames and I'll get everyone else added.
>  * I've updated the web site source materials but have NOT pushed it as I
> can not run Forrest currently.
>  * Someone else should run Forrest and push the site after confirming that
> the wiki links work.
>  * How do we kill off the old wiki?
>  * Can we set up a redirect from the old wiki to the new wiki?
>  * Someone else should finish fixing up the syntax on the "How to
> Contribute" page as I did not finish that yet.
>
>  - Bruce
>
>
>

On 06/01/2010 02:09 AM, Bruce Mitchener wrote:
> Status:
>
>   * Confluence wiki created, I have access along with Scott Carey so far.
>   * Send me usernames and I'll get everyone else added.

Bruce, thanks so much for driving this forward!

I'm not sure that we need access controls on this wiki.  Some sites
automatically export their Confluence wiki content to their official
<project>.apache.com website.  For such projects, wiki contributions
must be limited to committers.  But wikis are usually open for anyone to
edit.  Changes to the wiki should probably be sent to dev@, so we all
can monitor it.

>   * I've updated the web site source materials but have NOT pushed it as I
> can not run Forrest currently.
>   * Someone else should run Forrest and push the site after confirming that
> the wiki links work.

I can do this. Are we ready to do this now?  It looks like the "How to
Release" page hasn't yet been moved.

>   * How do we kill off the old wiki?
>   * Can we set up a redirect from the old wiki to the new wiki?

Yes, I hope we can redirect things to the new wiki.  Moin moin won't
permit us to redirect to an external site using the #refresh pragma, so
I'll ask infra if we can set up a .htacess-based redirect.
Unfortunately the new pages have spaces in urls (HowToContribute ->
How+To+Contribute) so a regex-based redirect might be tricky.

Once we have the redirect in place we might have a hard time viewing old
pages, so we should probably make sure we've copied everything before we
do this.

Doug

On 06/02/2010 10:39 AM, Doug Cutting wrote:
> I'll ask infra if we can set up a .htacess-based redirect.

I figured out how to setup the redirect, but won't throw the switch
until we have HowToRelease copied.  (I can't edit the new wiki yet.)

Doug

So, current status is:

 * Confluence wiki is now open for anyone to edit it (per cutting).
 * I've done some content updates:
   * I've moved over the page on HowToRelease.
   * I've also copied over the Hadoop code review checklist as it was
referenced from How To Contribute.
   * I fixed the formatting on How To Contribute.
 * The website update will be built and pushed by either cutting or massie.
 * The old wiki will redirect to the new and cutting will be taking care of
that.

So, I think all that remains is the website update and the redirects to be
put in place and we can call this done!

 - Bruce

On Thu, Jun 3, 2010 at 12:39 AM, Doug Cutting <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> On 06/01/2010 02:09 AM, Bruce Mitchener wrote:
>
>> Status:
>>
>>  * Confluence wiki created, I have access along with Scott Carey so far.
>>  * Send me usernames and I'll get everyone else added.
>>
>
> Bruce, thanks so much for driving this forward!
>
> I'm not sure that we need access controls on this wiki.  Some sites
> automatically export their Confluence wiki content to their official
> <project>.apache.com website.  For such projects, wiki contributions must
> be limited to committers.  But wikis are usually open for anyone to edit.
>  Changes to the wiki should probably be sent to dev@, so we all can
> monitor it.
>
>
>   * I've updated the web site source materials but have NOT pushed it as I
>> can not run Forrest currently.
>>  * Someone else should run Forrest and push the site after confirming that
>> the wiki links work.
>>
>
> I can do this. Are we ready to do this now?  It looks like the "How to
> Release" page hasn't yet been moved.
>
>
>   * How do we kill off the old wiki?
>>  * Can we set up a redirect from the old wiki to the new wiki?
>>
>
> Yes, I hope we can redirect things to the new wiki.  Moin moin won't permit
> us to redirect to an external site using the #refresh pragma, so I'll ask
> infra if we can set up a .htacess-based redirect. Unfortunately the new
> pages have spaces in urls (HowToContribute -> How+To+Contribute) so a
> regex-based redirect might be tricky.
>
> Once we have the redirect in place we might have a hard time viewing old
> pages, so we should probably make sure we've copied everything before we do
> this.
>
> Doug
>
>

On 06/02/2010 10:31 PM, Bruce Mitchener wrote:
> So, I think all that remains is the website update and the redirects to be
> put in place and we can call this done!

These are now done.

Doug