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Hadoop, mail # dev - Re: Heads up - 2.0.5-beta


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Suresh Srinivas 2013-04-26, 01:36
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Arun C Murthy 2013-04-26, 18:02
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Konstantin Shvachko 2013-04-26, 23:34
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Arun C Murthy 2013-04-27, 01:06
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Konstantin Shvachko 2013-04-30, 23:28
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Arun C Murthy 2013-05-01, 20:15
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Konstantin Shvachko 2013-05-01, 23:08
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Arun C Murthy 2013-05-02, 01:24
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Chris Douglas 2013-05-02, 07:07
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Konstantin Shvachko 2013-05-02, 09:11
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Re: Heads up - 2.0.5-beta
Chris Douglas 2013-05-03, 00:53
On Thu, May 2, 2013 at 2:11 AM, Konstantin Shvachko
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Thu, May 2, 2013 at 12:07 AM, Chris Douglas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> Can anyone remember why we vote on release plans? -C
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> To vote on features to include in the release.

Since most features are developed in branches (requiring a merge
vote), each change is RTC, and the release itself requires a vote... a
vote on the executive summary for a release is a poor time to engage
development. It doesn't seem to accomplish anything when it's not a
formality, so maybe we're better without it. Thoughts?

> I am arguing against invasive and destructive features proposed for the
> release.

Heh; do we need new tags in JIRA?

Setting aside the choice of words, we don't assign work by voting.
Stability is a shared goal, but conflating it with inertia after our
experiences with the 0.20 forks, 0.21, and 0.22 takes exactly the
wrong lessons from those episodes.

If you want to create a 2.x branch, pull out the features you view as
high-risk, and invite others to join your effort: you don't need
anyone's permission. If the bylaws contradict this, then that's a bug.
But one can't vote a set of priorities into preeminence, he can only
convince others to share them *and work on them.* It's cheap to
reassign versions to accommodate whatever shape the community takes,
but voting first and expecting everyone to follow the result has never
worked. Cos's chart gives the lie to the attempt: every time we've
tried, we end up reassigning the versions according to reality,
anyway. -C
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Konstantin Shvachko 2013-05-02, 09:08
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Arun C Murthy 2013-05-02, 22:05
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Konstantin Shvachko 2013-05-03, 08:06
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Robert Evans 2013-05-03, 15:23
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Konstantin Shvachko 2013-05-01, 19:13
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Arpit Agarwal 2013-04-26, 23:52
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Amir Sanjar 2013-04-26, 02:23
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Steve Loughran 2013-04-29, 22:37
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Amir Sanjar 2013-04-30, 02:05
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Steve Loughran 2013-04-30, 16:48
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Amir Sanjar 2013-04-30, 17:09
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Roman Shaposhnik 2013-04-26, 02:31
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Arun C Murthy 2013-04-26, 18:15
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Eli Collins 2013-04-26, 19:07
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Suresh Srinivas 2013-04-26, 21:42
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Eli Collins 2013-04-26, 22:09
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Luke Lu 2013-04-26, 20:37
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Arun C Murthy 2013-04-27, 01:27
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Konstantin Shvachko 2013-04-26, 23:00