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Re: How do we determine 'stable' pig version?
That's true. "stable" only means "current". It seems more meaningful to
change "stable" to "current".
On Tue, Oct 29, 2013 at 12:17 PM, Olga Natkovich <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote:

> If by "stable" we mean something we released, I don't see this label to be
> needed/useful at all.
>
>
>
> On Wednesday, October 23, 2013 8:01 AM, Koji Noguchi <
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Thanks Alan, Daniel.
>
> Taking back my request on 'stable' criteria.
>
> Koji
>
>
> On Oct 22, 2013, at 7:18 PM, Alan Gates <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > I don't think we should change our use of stable.  Our usage is in line
> with the Hadoop usage of the term in their releases.  To the best of our
> knowledge as Apache developers it is stable.  It passes all of the tests we
> have.  We have no criteria for deciding stability beyond this.
> >
> > Alan.
> >
> > On Oct 22, 2013, at 4:00 PM, Daniel Dai wrote:
> >
> >> Yes, we can revisit. The question is how to determine the stability?
> 0.11.1
> >> is released for a while and should be considered stable, but actually it
> >> contains problem raised just recently. After we release 0.12.1, how soon
> >> should we declare it a stable release?
> >>
> >> Thanks,
> >> Daniel
> >>
> >>
> >> On Tue, Oct 22, 2013 at 2:25 PM, Koji Noguchi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >wrote:
> >>
> >>> Thanks Daniel, Olga!  Keeping 3 versions would be nice.
> >>>
> >>> As for 'stable', can we revisit the definition?
> >>> If it's *always* pointing to the latest release, I don't see the need
> for
> >>> having this link(dir).
> >>> Is it adding any value?
> >>>
> >>> Koji
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> On Oct 22, 2013, at 1:43 PM, Daniel Dai <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> That's totally make sense. Let's keep both download/documentation for
> 3
> >>>> versions.
> >>>>
> >>>> Thanks,
> >>>> Daniel
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> On Tue, Oct 22, 2013 at 10:20 AM, Olga Natkovich <
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >>>> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>> Couple of suggestions:
> >>>>>
> >>>>> (1) I think we are trying to go for a more frequent release model
> and in
> >>>>> that case it would make sense to keep perhaps 3 releases. Based on
> our
> >>>>> experience at Yahoo, Pig 10 is the really stable release. We recently
> >>> found
> >>>>> a couple of critical bugs in 11 for which we posted patches. Also the
> >>>>> community knows that we delayed a couple of key bugs in 12 till 12.1
> >>>>> (2) Our documentation needs to be consistent with the number of
> releases
> >>>>> we advertise as supported. Our docs currently go all the way to Pig
> 9.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Olga
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> On Tuesday, October 22, 2013 10:13 AM, Daniel Dai <
> >>> [EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Hi, Koji,
> >>>>> Here is the criteria I use:
> >>>>> (i) How do we determine how many releases to show on the front
> download
> >>>>> page?
> >>>>> We usually keep two most recent releases on the front page according
> to
> >>>>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/PIG/HowToRelease.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> (ii) How do we determine which release is considered 'stable' ?
> >>>>> Here "stable" means passing all tests, peer reviewed. It does not
> mean
> >>>>> production "stable". Actually there is no way for us to know
> production
> >>>>> "stable" after user download it, use it and gives feedback. That's
> why
> >>> we
> >>>>> will continue fixing bugs after major release. and make minor
> releases.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Thanks,
> >>>>> Daniel
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> On Tue, Oct 22, 2013 at 9:45 AM, Koji Noguchi <
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> When I went to the pig release download page (through
> >>>>>> http://www.apache.org/dyn/closer.cgi/pig), I only saw 0.11.1 and
> 0.12
> >>>>>> available.
> >>>>>> I later learned that there is an 'archive' link(
> >>>>>> http://archive.apache.org/dist/pig/)  that list other versions
> (0.8 to
> >>>>>> 0.10).
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Two questions.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> (i) How do we determine how many releases to show on the front

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