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On Wed, Oct 30, 2013 at 6:21 PM, Christopher <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> If existing committers are willing to take on the project, and
> maintain it and really own it (so, more than just being a proxy for
> external committers), I'd be on board accepting it as a sub-project.
>
> However, if its just going to be an orphaned project, or we're just
> going to have to act as a proxy for external developers who've hosted
> their code in our project as a notional parent, but aren't committers
> themselves, I'm opposed to importing it and assuming ownership of it
> as a sub-project, and think it would be better served hosted where the
> originating developers can maintain it.
>
> In either case, I think it's a great related project to serve both the
> R and Accumulo communities, and we should link to it, provide
> feedback, and help make it better if we can. I'm just concerned about
> setting a precedent for accepting/hosting everything related to
> Accumulo, causing us to either be spread too thin or to cause projects
> to die because of lack of care.
>
> --
> Christopher L Tubbs II
> http://gravatar.com/ctubbsii
>
>
> On Wed, Oct 30, 2013 at 5:48 PM, Josh Elser <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > On 10/29/13, 4:20 PM, Eric Whyne wrote:
> >>
> >> Some thoughts to re-ignite this thread:
> >>
> >> The raccumulo project has some of it's code written in the language R,
> but
> >> does not borrow any code from the R codebase and as such is not a
> >> derivative work.
> >>
> >> Unless anybody can think of a way in which R's own licensing could
> become
> >> a
> >> concern, potential license conflicts might be a dead issue?
> >
> >
> > Looking around at this some more, I can't find any similar case on LEGAL.
> > Given that there is only a GPL implementation of R (take openjdk,
> sun/oracle
> > jdk, IBM's java, etc as an example for Java projects), I wasn't sure if
> this
> > would present any sort of issue because raccumulo would be more or less
> > useless if someone did not want to use GPL software.
> >
> > <not-a-lawyer>Nothing is jumping out at me from a licensing standpoint
> that
> > would create concern to this code being hosted on ASF resources.
> > </not-a-lawyer>
> >
> >> The primary developer Phil Grim has signed an ICLA that I'm going to
> send
> >> off tomorrow pending our company's contracts department's approval. Same
> >> with company level CCLA, complete and pending final review. Phil, Aaron,
> >> and Myself as listed as representatives on it.
> >>
> >> Insofar as observations about lack of committership:
> >> Phil has been willing to share his code for a while and wants to keep
> >> contributing.
> >> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/SQOOP-767
> >> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/ACCUMULO-141
> >> discussion about this topic here:
> >>
> >>
> http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/msg10665.html
> >>
> >> The other developer, Aaron is listed as a previous contributor to
> >> accumulo:
> >> http://accumulo.apache.org/people.html
> >>
> >> More about what's going on at the company:
> >> https://twitter.com/DataTactics
> >>
> >> More about DARPA XData (one of the programs of interest):
> >> http://www.darpa.mil/Our_Work/I2O/Programs/XDATA.aspx
> >> The customer project includes a charter to contribute to open source:
> >> "XDATA plans to release open-source software toolkits to enable
> >> collaboration among the applied mathematics, computer science and data
> >> visualization communities."
> >>
> >> As a company we'd be happy to just keep hosting the code on our Github
> >> page, but I think we'd rather see it be included closer to the accumulo
> >> project as mentioned previously. Given the momentum of R, the interest
> of
> >> DARPA and others, I think the benefits outweigh he risks. There's an
> >> extremely small chance of an orphaned project and even then as a 200+
> >> person company there's somebody you can blame if it does become a