One year ago (to the day!) Chris started a discussion about the
release manager role
(http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/hadoop-general/201005.mbox/%[EMAIL PROTECTED]%3E).
In light of today's disagreements, I think we should restart this
discussion and incorporate these rules into the bylaws, since it
formalizes our practices.

I'm happy to drive this. We could start by discussing Chris' proposal
(see clarifications in
http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/hadoop-general/201005.mbox/%[EMAIL PROTECTED]%3E),
then when we get consensus we can put the document on the website.
(BTW does anyone know if the bylaws were checked into SVN anywhere?
These belong together.)

Cheers,
Tom

On Wed, May 4, 2011 at 5:59 PM, Tom White <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> One year ago (to the day!) Chris started a discussion about the
> release manager role
> (http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/hadoop-general/201005.mbox/%[EMAIL PROTECTED]%3E).
> In light of today's disagreements, I think we should restart this
> discussion and incorporate these rules into the bylaws, since it
> formalizes our practices.
>
> I'm happy to drive this. We could start by discussing Chris' proposal
> (see clarifications in
> http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/hadoop-general/201005.mbox/%[EMAIL PROTECTED]%3E),
> then when we get consensus we can put the document on the website.
> (BTW does anyone know if the bylaws were checked into SVN anywhere?
> These belong together.)

Sounds good to me. I like Chris' proposal, he was clear that "nothing
should be in (unreleased) 0.x that isn't also in trunk." so that may
needs to be revisited if we want to be consistent with today's vote.

I don't think the bylaws were checked in, we should do that first. How
about checking them into the site repo so they get generated as part
of the docs? Eg this is how Pig does it:
http://pig.apache.org/bylaws.html

Thanks,
Eli

On Wed, May 4, 2011 at 23:40, Eli Collins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Wed, May 4, 2011 at 5:59 PM, Tom White <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> One year ago (to the day!) Chris started a discussion about the
>> release manager role
>> (http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/hadoop-general/201005.mbox/%[EMAIL PROTECTED]%3E).
>> In light of today's disagreements, I think we should restart this
>> discussion and incorporate these rules into the bylaws, since it
>> formalizes our practices.
>>
>> I'm happy to drive this. We could start by discussing Chris' proposal
>> (see clarifications in
>> http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/hadoop-general/201005.mbox/%[EMAIL PROTECTED]%3E),
>> then when we get consensus we can put the document on the website.
>> (BTW does anyone know if the bylaws were checked into SVN anywhere?
>> These belong together.)
>
> Sounds good to me. I like Chris' proposal, he was clear that "nothing
> should be in (unreleased) 0.x that isn't also in trunk." so that may
> needs to be revisited if we want to be consistent with today's vote.
>
> I don't think the bylaws were checked in, we should do that first. How
> about checking them into the site repo so they get generated as part
> of the docs? Eg this is how Pig does it:
> http://pig.apache.org/bylaws.html

+1 makes sense.

>
> Thanks,
> Eli
>

> I don't think the bylaws were checked in, we should do that first. How
> about checking them into the site repo so they get generated as part
> of the docs?

-1

Please don't check in anything before having a vote.  Thanks.

Nicholas

________________________________
From: Konstantin Boudnik <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thu, May 5, 2011 9:36:25 AM
Subject: Re: [DISCUSSION] Release rules

On Wed, May 4, 2011 at 23:40, Eli Collins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Wed, May 4, 2011 at 5:59 PM, Tom White <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> One year ago (to the day!) Chris started a discussion about the
>> release manager role
>>(http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/hadoop-general/201005.mbox/%[EMAIL PROTECTED]%3E).
>>.
>> In light of today's disagreements, I think we should restart this
>> discussion and incorporate these rules into the bylaws, since it
>> formalizes our practices.
>>
>> I'm happy to drive this. We could start by discussing Chris' proposal
>> (see clarifications in
>>http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/hadoop-general/201005.mbox/%[EMAIL PROTECTED]%3E),
>>,
>> then when we get consensus we can put the document on the website.
>> (BTW does anyone know if the bylaws were checked into SVN anywhere?
>> These belong together.)
>
> Sounds good to me. I like Chris' proposal, he was clear that "nothing
> should be in (unreleased) 0.x that isn't also in trunk." so that may
> needs to be revisited if we want to be consistent with today's vote.
>
> I don't think the bylaws were checked in, we should do that first. How
> about checking them into the site repo so they get generated as part
> of the docs? Eg this is how Pig does it:
> http://pig.apache.org/bylaws.html

+1 makes sense.

>
> Thanks,
> Eli
>

On Thu, May 5, 2011 at 10:36 AM, Tsz Wo (Nicholas), Sze
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> I don't think the bylaws were checked in, we should do that first. How
>> about checking them into the site repo so they get generated as part
>> of the docs?
>
> -1
>
> Please don't check in anything before having a vote.  Thanks.
>

The project already has bylaws.  Owen proposed them and they passed,
we should check them into svn.

http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/hadoop-general/201011.mbox/%3CAANLkTikWUHBedykosKNqPweuOvu2qCKfcf_+[EMAIL PROTECTED]%3E

Thanks,
Eli

Withdraw my -1.

Eli, thanks for pointing it out about the vote.

Nicholas
  
________________________________
From: Eli Collins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thu, May 5, 2011 11:10:13 AM
Subject: Re: [DISCUSSION] Release rules

On Thu, May 5, 2011 at 10:36 AM, Tsz Wo (Nicholas), Sze
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> I don't think the bylaws were checked in, we should do that first. How
>> about checking them into the site repo so they get generated as part
>> of the docs?
>
> -1
>
> Please don't check in anything before having a vote.  Thanks.
>

The project already has bylaws.  Owen proposed them and they passed,
we should check them into svn.

http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/hadoop-general/201011.mbox/%3CAANLkTikWUHBedykosKNqPweuOvu2qCKfcf_+[EMAIL PROTECTED]%3E
Thanks,
Eli