Hi,

I am planning to make a search engine for news articles. It will probably
have over several billions of news articles so I thought HBase is the way to
go.

However, I am very new to CGI. All I know is that you use php, python or
java script with HTML to make a web site and communicate with the backend
database such as MySQL.

But I am going to use HBase, not MySQL, and I can't seem to find a script
language that provides any form of API to communicate with HBase.

So what do I do?

Do I have to make a web site with pure Java? Is that even possible?

Or is using Hbase as the backend Database a bad idea in the first place?

On Mon, Feb 28, 2011 at 2:37 PM, edward choi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I am planning to make a search engine for news articles. It will probably
> have over several billions of news articles so I thought HBase is the way to
> go.
>
> However, I am very new to CGI. All I know is that you use php, python or
> java script with HTML to make a web site and communicate with the backend
> database such as MySQL.
>
> But I am going to use HBase, not MySQL, and I can't seem to find a script
> language that provides any form of API to communicate with HBase.
>
> So what do I do?
>
> Do I have to make a web site with pure Java? Is that even possible?

It is possible, if you know things like JSP, Java servelets etc.

For people comfortable with PHP or Python, I think Apache Thrift
(http://wiki.apache.org/thrift/) is an alternative.

-b

>
> Or is using Hbase as the backend Database a bad idea in the first place?
>

HI,

I have been using the Thrift Perl API to connect to Hbase for my web app.  
At the moment i only perform random reads and scans based on date ranges  
and some other search criteria.
It works and I am still testing performance.

-Usman

> On Mon, Feb 28, 2011 at 2:37 PM, edward choi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> I am planning to make a search engine for news articles. It will  
>> probably
>> have over several billions of news articles so I thought HBase is the  
>> way to
>> go.
>>
>> However, I am very new to CGI. All I know is that you use php, python or
>> java script with HTML to make a web site and communicate with the  
>> backend
>> database such as MySQL.
>>
>> But I am going to use HBase, not MySQL, and I can't seem to find a  
>> script
>> language that provides any form of API to communicate with HBase.
>>
>> So what do I do?
>>
>> Do I have to make a web site with pure Java? Is that even possible?
>
> It is possible, if you know things like JSP, Java servelets etc.
>
> For people comfortable with PHP or Python, I think Apache Thrift
> (http://wiki.apache.org/thrift/) is an alternative.
>
> -b
>
>>
>> Or is using Hbase as the backend Database a bad idea in the first place?
>>
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Thanks for the reply.
Didn't know that Thrift was for such purpose.
Servlet and JSP is totally new to me. I skimmed through the concept on the internet and they look fascinating.
I think I am gonna give servlet and JSP a try.

On 2011. 3. 1., at 오전 12:51, "Usman Waheed" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> HI,
>
> I have been using the Thrift Perl API to connect to Hbase for my web app. At the moment i only perform random reads and scans based on date ranges and some other search criteria.
> It works and I am still testing performance.
>
> -Usman
>
>> On Mon, Feb 28, 2011 at 2:37 PM, edward choi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> I am planning to make a search engine for news articles. It will probably
>>> have over several billions of news articles so I thought HBase is the way to
>>> go.
>>>
>>> However, I am very new to CGI. All I know is that you use php, python or
>>> java script with HTML to make a web site and communicate with the backend
>>> database such as MySQL.
>>>
>>> But I am going to use HBase, not MySQL, and I can't seem to find a script
>>> language that provides any form of API to communicate with HBase.
>>>
>>> So what do I do?
>>>
>>> Do I have to make a web site with pure Java? Is that even possible?
>>
>> It is possible, if you know things like JSP, Java servelets etc.
>>
>> For people comfortable with PHP or Python, I think Apache Thrift
>> (http://wiki.apache.org/thrift/) is an alternative.
>>
>> -b
>>
>>>
>>> Or is using Hbase as the backend Database a bad idea in the first place?
>>>
>
>
> --
> Using Opera's revolutionary email client: http://www.opera.com/mail/

Java servlets for web development with databases is a learning curve.  HBase is a learning curve. You might want to learn one at a time :)  If you code the site in Java/JSPs, you want a JDBC driver for HBase. You can code calls to HBase directly in a JSP without writing Java.

Lance
On Feb 28, 2011, at 6:19 PM, edward choi wrote:

> Thanks for the reply.
> Didn't know that Thrift was for such purpose.
> Servlet and JSP is totally new to me. I skimmed through the concept on the internet and they look fascinating.
> I think I am gonna give servlet and JSP a try.
>
> On 2011. 3. 1., at 오전 12:51, "Usman Waheed" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> HI,
>>
>> I have been using the Thrift Perl API to connect to Hbase for my web app. At the moment i only perform random reads and scans based on date ranges and some other search criteria.
>> It works and I am still testing performance.
>>
>> -Usman
>>
>>> On Mon, Feb 28, 2011 at 2:37 PM, edward choi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>>> Hi,
>>>>
>>>> I am planning to make a search engine for news articles. It will probably
>>>> have over several billions of news articles so I thought HBase is the way to
>>>> go.
>>>>
>>>> However, I am very new to CGI. All I know is that you use php, python or
>>>> java script with HTML to make a web site and communicate with the backend
>>>> database such as MySQL.
>>>>
>>>> But I am going to use HBase, not MySQL, and I can't seem to find a script
>>>> language that provides any form of API to communicate with HBase.
>>>>
>>>> So what do I do?
>>>>
>>>> Do I have to make a web site with pure Java? Is that even possible?
>>>
>>> It is possible, if you know things like JSP, Java servelets etc.
>>>
>>> For people comfortable with PHP or Python, I think Apache Thrift
>>> (http://wiki.apache.org/thrift/) is an alternative.
>>>
>>> -b
>>>
>>>>
>>>> Or is using Hbase as the backend Database a bad idea in the first place?
>>>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Using Opera's revolutionary email client: http://www.opera.com/mail/

Wow thanks for the tip. I could definitely use that.
Just like you said, I am trying to do one at a time :)
Thanks Lance.

2011년 3월 1일 오후 2:06, Lance Norskog <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>님의 말:

> Java servlets for web development with databases is a learning curve.
>  HBase is a learning curve. You might want to learn one at a time :)  If you
> code the site in Java/JSPs, you want a JDBC driver for HBase. You can code
> calls to HBase directly in a JSP without writing Java.
>
> Lance
>
>
> On Feb 28, 2011, at 6:19 PM, edward choi wrote:
>
> > Thanks for the reply.
> > Didn't know that Thrift was for such purpose.
> > Servlet and JSP is totally new to me. I skimmed through the concept on
> the internet and they look fascinating.
> > I think I am gonna give servlet and JSP a try.
> >
> > On 2011. 3. 1., at 오전 12:51, "Usman Waheed" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >> HI,
> >>
> >> I have been using the Thrift Perl API to connect to Hbase for my web
> app. At the moment i only perform random reads and scans based on date
> ranges and some other search criteria.
> >> It works and I am still testing performance.
> >>
> >> -Usman
> >>
> >>> On Mon, Feb 28, 2011 at 2:37 PM, edward choi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >>>> Hi,
> >>>>
> >>>> I am planning to make a search engine for news articles. It will
> probably
> >>>> have over several billions of news articles so I thought HBase is the
> way to
> >>>> go.
> >>>>
> >>>> However, I am very new to CGI. All I know is that you use php, python
> or
> >>>> java script with HTML to make a web site and communicate with the
> backend
> >>>> database such as MySQL.
> >>>>
> >>>> But I am going to use HBase, not MySQL, and I can't seem to find a
> script
> >>>> language that provides any form of API to communicate with HBase.
> >>>>
> >>>> So what do I do?
> >>>>
> >>>> Do I have to make a web site with pure Java? Is that even possible?
> >>>
> >>> It is possible, if you know things like JSP, Java servelets etc.
> >>>
> >>> For people comfortable with PHP or Python, I think Apache Thrift
> >>> (http://wiki.apache.org/thrift/) is an alternative.
> >>>
> >>> -b
> >>>
> >>>>
> >>>> Or is using Hbase as the backend Database a bad idea in the first
> place?
> >>>>
> >>
> >>
> >> --
> >> Using Opera's revolutionary email client: http://www.opera.com/mail/
>
>

I'd say skip trying to shoe horn JDBC interface on HBase, and just write straight to it.
Remember K.I.S.S.

-Mike
> Subject: Re: How to make a CGI with HBase?
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2011 21:06:52 -0800
> CC: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> Java servlets for web development with databases is a learning curve.  HBase is a learning curve. You might want to learn one at a time :)  If you code the site in Java/JSPs, you want a JDBC driver for HBase. You can code calls to HBase directly in a JSP without writing Java.
>
> Lance
>
>
> On Feb 28, 2011, at 6:19 PM, edward choi wrote:
>
> > Thanks for the reply.
> > Didn't know that Thrift was for such purpose.
> > Servlet and JSP is totally new to me. I skimmed through the concept on the internet and they look fascinating.
> > I think I am gonna give servlet and JSP a try.
> >
> > On 2011. 3. 1., at 占쏙옙占쏙옙 12:51, "Usman Waheed" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >> HI,
> >>
> >> I have been using the Thrift Perl API to connect to Hbase for my web app. At the moment i only perform random reads and scans based on date ranges and some other search criteria.
> >> It works and I am still testing performance.
> >>
> >> -Usman
> >>
> >>> On Mon, Feb 28, 2011 at 2:37 PM, edward choi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >>>> Hi,
> >>>>
> >>>> I am planning to make a search engine for news articles. It will probably
> >>>> have over several billions of news articles so I thought HBase is the way to
> >>>> go.
> >>>>
> >>>> However, I am very new to CGI. All I know is that you use php, python or
> >>>> java script with HTML to make a web site and communicate with the backend
> >>>> database such as MySQL.
> >>>>
> >>>> But I am going to use HBase, not MySQL, and I can't seem to find a script
> >>>> language that provides any form of API to communicate with HBase.
> >>>>
> >>>> So what do I do?
> >>>>
> >>>> Do I have to make a web site with pure Java? Is that even possible?
> >>>
> >>> It is possible, if you know things like JSP, Java servelets etc.
> >>>
> >>> For people comfortable with PHP or Python, I think Apache Thrift
> >>> (http://wiki.apache.org/thrift/) is an alternative.
> >>>
> >>> -b
> >>>
> >>>>
> >>>> Or is using Hbase as the backend Database a bad idea in the first place?
> >>>>
> >>
> >>
> >> --
> >> Using Opera's revolutionary email client: http://www.opera.com/mail/
>
     

Hi,

Is there a very basic example on such a KISS interface towards a HBase table?

Thanks

2011/3/1 Michael Segel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>
> I'd say skip trying to shoe horn JDBC interface on HBase, and just write straight to it.
> Remember K.I.S.S.
>
> -Mike
>
>
>> Subject: Re: How to make a CGI with HBase?
>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2011 21:06:52 -0800
>> CC: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>
>> Java servlets for web development with databases is a learning curve.  HBase is a learning curve. You might want to learn one at a time :)  If you code the site in Java/JSPs, you want a JDBC driver for HBase. You can code calls to HBase directly in a JSP without writing Java.
>>
>> Lance
>>
>>
>> On Feb 28, 2011, at 6:19 PM, edward choi wrote:
>>
>> > Thanks for the reply.
>> > Didn't know that Thrift was for such purpose.
>> > Servlet and JSP is totally new to me. I skimmed through the concept on the internet and they look fascinating.
>> > I think I am gonna give servlet and JSP a try.
>> >
>> > On 2011. 3. 1., at 오전 12:51, "Usman Waheed" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> >> HI,
>> >>
>> >> I have been using the Thrift Perl API to connect to Hbase for my web app. At the moment i only perform random reads and scans based on date ranges and some other search criteria.
>> >> It works and I am still testing performance.
>> >>
>> >> -Usman
>> >>
>> >>> On Mon, Feb 28, 2011 at 2:37 PM, edward choi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> >>>> Hi,
>> >>>>
>> >>>> I am planning to make a search engine for news articles. It will probably
>> >>>> have over several billions of news articles so I thought HBase is the way to
>> >>>> go.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> However, I am very new to CGI. All I know is that you use php, python or
>> >>>> java script with HTML to make a web site and communicate with the backend
>> >>>> database such as MySQL.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> But I am going to use HBase, not MySQL, and I can't seem to find a script
>> >>>> language that provides any form of API to communicate with HBase.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> So what do I do?
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Do I have to make a web site with pure Java? Is that even possible?
>> >>>
>> >>> It is possible, if you know things like JSP, Java servelets etc.
>> >>>
>> >>> For people comfortable with PHP or Python, I think Apache Thrift
>> >>> (http://wiki.apache.org/thrift/) is an alternative.
>> >>>
>> >>> -b
>> >>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Or is using Hbase as the backend Database a bad idea in the first place?
>> >>>>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> --
>> >> Using Opera's revolutionary email client: http://www.opera.com/mail/
>>
>

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Met vriendelijke groeten,

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