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Re: Proposal: create a separate ZooKeeper release artifact for recipes
I suppose you're just trying to sense if others think that it would be  
a good idea to have it as a subproject. If so, I'm in favor of putting  
a proposal together, +1.


On Dec 2, 2011, at 8:45 PM, Patrick Hunt wrote:

> Somehow this got off list, Jordan and I just noticed, summary so far:
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: Patrick Hunt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Date: Fri, Dec 2, 2011 at 9:56 AM
> Subject: Re: Proposal: create a separate ZooKeeper release artifact  
> for recipes
> To: Jordan Zimmerman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Did you mean to reply just to me? I think this is a great idea btw,
> just need to work out the mechanics of getting it integrated and get
> the others on board. Would it help to talk f2f?
> On Thu, Dec 1, 2011 at 6:20 PM, Jordan Zimmerman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > wrote:
>> From talking to folks here (and my own feeling), I'd like to have  
>> Curator
>> get as wide use as possible. Some sort of sanction from the  
>> ZooKeeper team
>> would do that. I don't see a lot of downside to getting a community  
>> around
>> it either. Sure, it's nice to be the only guy I need to please, but  
>> the
>> benefits of a community outweigh that.
>> I think the beauty of folding it in to ZooKeeper is that the  
>> structure is
>> already there: Jira, website, etc. I (and probably one other from  
>> Netflix)
>> could take on the role of managing the Curator portion so that it  
>> doesn't
>> burden you folks. I'm doing that internally at Netflix anyway.  
>> Frankly, it
>> sounds like fun (famous last words).
>> -Jordan
>> On 12/1/11 5:36 PM, "Patrick Hunt" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>> On Thu, Dec 1, 2011 at 2:05 PM, Jordan Zimmerman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>> >
>>> wrote:
>>>> The feeling here is that it would be nice to push Curator into ZK.
>>>> However, we'd still like to contribute to it. If you don't want  
>>>> separate
>>>> contributor lists, I could be a ZK contributor but explicitly  
>>>> only work
>>>> on
>>>> Curator. Of course, we're open to your suggestions on this as well.
>>> Don't get me wrong, I don't mind having one list of
>>> contributors/committers for ZK/Curator, I'm personally fine with
>>> having one. If you notice in my original proposal I lean towards  
>>> that
>>> direction (single set of committers with multiple artifacts)
>>> I see a benefit to having something like Curator available to users,
>>> open sourcing it on GH accomplishes this. Bringing something to  
>>> Apache
>>> means building a community around it though, not just making the  
>>> code
>>> open source. This is analogous to when ZK itself was on sourceforge,
>>> eventually moving to Apache.
>>> Here's the issue: building community adds overhead, which you might
>>> not be willing to sign up for. I'm not sure we (zk community) can  
>>> take
>>> on this additional cost alone. Hence my question -- I _wouldn't_  
>>> want
>>> to you leave, that's the point. We'd need some set of core "Curator
>>> contributors" who would continue to work on Curator, answer  
>>> questions,
>>> shepherd new contributor/committers/etc... If that doesn't happen  
>>> the
>>> code will get imported, see some use, but never really reach it's  
>>> full
>>> potential.
>>> Hope that helps. LMK.
>>> Patrick
>>>> On 12/1/11 2:01 PM, "Patrick Hunt" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>>>> On Thu, Dec 1, 2011 at 1:26 PM, Jordan Zimmerman
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>> I've spoken about this with the appropriate folks here at  
>>>>>> Netflix and
>>>>>> we're interested in pursuing this. What are the next steps?
>>>>> Hi Jordan, what are your intentions. Do you want to build a  
>>>>> community
>>>>> around "Apache Curator" or are you just looking to push the source
>>>>> into ZK and move on to other things?
>>>>> Patrick
>>>>>> On 11/30/11 5:42 PM, "Ted Dunning" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>>>>>> Separator committer lists are generally frowned on by Apache  


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