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Re: mapred replication
Hi Eric,

Yes, this is intentional.  The job.xml file and the job jar file get read
from every node running a map or reduce task.  Because of this, using a
higher than normal replication factor on these files improves locality.
 More than 3 task slots will have access to local replicas.  These files
tend to be much smaller than the actual data read by a job, so there tends
to be little harm done in terms of disk space consumption.

Why not create the file initially with 10 replicas instead of creating it
with 3 and then dialing up?  I imagine this is so that job submission
doesn't block on a synchronous write to a long pipeline.  The extra
replicas aren't necessary for correctness, and a long-running job will get
the locality benefits in the long term once more replicas are created in
the background.

I recommend submitting a new jira describing the problem that you saw.  We
probably can handle this better, and a jira would be a good place to
discuss the trade-offs.  A few possibilities:

Log a warning if mapred.submit.replication < dfs.replication.
Skip resetting replication if mapred.submit.replication <= dfs.replication.
Fail with error if mapred.submit.replication < dfs.replication.

Chris Nauroth
Hortonworks
http://hortonworks.com/

On Thu, Aug 15, 2013 at 6:21 AM, Sirianni, Eric <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote:

> In debugging some replication issues in our HDFS environment, I noticed
> that the MapReduce framework uses the following algorithm for setting the
> replication on submitted job files:
>
> 1.     Create the file with *default* DFS replication factor (i.e.
> 'dfs.replication')
>
> 2.     Subsequently alter the replication of the file based on the
> 'mapred.submit.replication' config value
>
>   private static FSDataOutputStream createFile(FileSystem fs, Path
> splitFile,
>       Configuration job)  throws IOException {
>     FSDataOutputStream out = FileSystem.create(fs, splitFile,
>         new FsPermission(JobSubmissionFiles.JOB_FILE_PERMISSION));
>     int replication = job.getInt("mapred.submit.replication", 10);
>     fs.setReplication(splitFile, (short)replication);
>     writeSplitHeader(out);
>     return out;
>   }
>
> If I understand currectly, the net functional effect of this approach is
> that
>
> -       The initial write pipeline is setup with 'dfs.replication' nodes
> (i.e. 3)
>
> -       The namenode triggers additional inter-datanode replications in
> the background (as it detects the blocks as "under-replicated").
>
> I'm assuming this is intentional?  Alternatively, if the
> mapred.submit.replication was specified on initial create, the write
> pipeline would be significantly larger.
>
> The reason I noticed is that we had inadvertently specified
> mapred.submit.replication as *less than* dfs.replication in our
> configuration, which caused a bunch of excess replica pruning (and
> ultimately IOExceptions in our datanode logs).
>
> Thanks,
> Eric
>
>

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