I marked a few issues as "simple", and I noticed at some point earlier
we seem to have done a similar excercise labeling issues as "newbie".
If you are a newcomer wishing to contribute to the project, these
might be a good place to start. Check 'em out:

https://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/IssueNavigator.jspa?reset=true&jqlQuery=project+%3D+PIG+AND+%28labels+%3D+newbie+OR+labels+%3D+simple%29+and+status+%3D+open

D

The bottom of the how to contribute page still references the 'newbie' tag,
with a link to a broken JIRA filter:

https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/PIG/HowToContribute

We should swap in this link. Should we just change to use simple and get
rid of the newbie tag? Or do we say to look for either?
On Sun, Apr 29, 2012 at 3:44 PM, Dmitriy Ryaboy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> I marked a few issues as "simple", and I noticed at some point earlier
> we seem to have done a similar excercise labeling issues as "newbie".
> If you are a newcomer wishing to contribute to the project, these
> might be a good place to start. Check 'em out:
>
>
> https://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/IssueNavigator.jspa?reset=true&jqlQuery=project+%3D+PIG+AND+%28labels+%3D+newbie+OR+labels+%3D+simple%29+and+status+%3D+open
>
> D
>

--
*Note that I'm no longer using my Yahoo! email address. Please email me at
[EMAIL PROTECTED] going forward.*

'newbie' is becoming the standard, or at least has been adopted in at
least Hadoop, Giraph, Kafka and Hive.

On Sun, Apr 29, 2012 at 9:17 PM, Bill Graham <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> The bottom of the how to contribute page still references the 'newbie' tag,
> with a link to a broken JIRA filter:
>
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/PIG/HowToContribute
>
> We should swap in this link. Should we just change to use simple and get
> rid of the newbie tag? Or do we say to look for either?
>
>
> On Sun, Apr 29, 2012 at 3:44 PM, Dmitriy Ryaboy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>> I marked a few issues as "simple", and I noticed at some point earlier
>> we seem to have done a similar excercise labeling issues as "newbie".
>> If you are a newcomer wishing to contribute to the project, these
>> might be a good place to start. Check 'em out:
>>
>>
>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/IssueNavigator.jspa?reset=true&jqlQuery=project+%3D+PIG+AND+%28labels+%3D+newbie+OR+labels+%3D+simple%29+and+status+%3D+open
>>
>> D
>>
>
>
>
> --
> *Note that I'm no longer using my Yahoo! email address. Please email me at
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] going forward.*

It's an unfortunate standard -- I saw people (new to the jira /
apache) using that tag as "I am a newbie and I have this problem",
where the problem is quite complicated. Also, I don't like the term
newbie in general :-).
I'll edit confluence to have the right link.

D

On Mon, Apr 30, 2012 at 9:26 AM, Jakob Homan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 'newbie' is becoming the standard, or at least has been adopted in at
> least Hadoop, Giraph, Kafka and Hive.
>
> On Sun, Apr 29, 2012 at 9:17 PM, Bill Graham <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> The bottom of the how to contribute page still references the 'newbie' tag,
>> with a link to a broken JIRA filter:
>>
>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/PIG/HowToContribute
>>
>> We should swap in this link. Should we just change to use simple and get
>> rid of the newbie tag? Or do we say to look for either?
>>
>>
>> On Sun, Apr 29, 2012 at 3:44 PM, Dmitriy Ryaboy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>
>>> I marked a few issues as "simple", and I noticed at some point earlier
>>> we seem to have done a similar excercise labeling issues as "newbie".
>>> If you are a newcomer wishing to contribute to the project, these
>>> might be a good place to start. Check 'em out:
>>>
>>>
>>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/IssueNavigator.jspa?reset=true&jqlQuery=project+%3D+PIG+AND+%28labels+%3D+newbie+OR+labels+%3D+simple%29+and+status+%3D+open
>>>
>>> D
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> *Note that I'm no longer using my Yahoo! email address. Please email me at
>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] going forward.*

I agree.  My choice had been 'starter-issues.'  Oh, well.

On Mon, Apr 30, 2012 at 1:44 PM, Dmitriy Ryaboy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> It's an unfortunate standard -- I saw people (new to the jira /
> apache) using that tag as "I am a newbie and I have this problem",
> where the problem is quite complicated. Also, I don't like the term
> newbie in general :-).
> I'll edit confluence to have the right link.
>
> D
>
> On Mon, Apr 30, 2012 at 9:26 AM, Jakob Homan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> 'newbie' is becoming the standard, or at least has been adopted in at
>> least Hadoop, Giraph, Kafka and Hive.
>>
>> On Sun, Apr 29, 2012 at 9:17 PM, Bill Graham <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>> The bottom of the how to contribute page still references the 'newbie' tag,
>>> with a link to a broken JIRA filter:
>>>
>>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/PIG/HowToContribute
>>>
>>> We should swap in this link. Should we just change to use simple and get
>>> rid of the newbie tag? Or do we say to look for either?
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sun, Apr 29, 2012 at 3:44 PM, Dmitriy Ryaboy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>>
>>>> I marked a few issues as "simple", and I noticed at some point earlier
>>>> we seem to have done a similar excercise labeling issues as "newbie".
>>>> If you are a newcomer wishing to contribute to the project, these
>>>> might be a good place to start. Check 'em out:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/IssueNavigator.jspa?reset=true&jqlQuery=project+%3D+PIG+AND+%28labels+%3D+newbie+OR+labels+%3D+simple%29+and+status+%3D+open
>>>>
>>>> D
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> *Note that I'm no longer using my Yahoo! email address. Please email me at
>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] going forward.*

fwiw - the cassandra project adopted lhf for "low hanging fruit" to avoid being condescending but yeah - sounds like newbie has become a standard for other projects.

e.g. https://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/IssueNavigator.jspa?reset=true&jqlQuery=project+%3D+12310865+AND+labels+%3D+lhf+AND+status+!%3D+resolved

On May 5, 2012, at 9:57 PM, Jakob Homan wrote:

> I agree.  My choice had been 'starter-issues.'  Oh, well.
>
> On Mon, Apr 30, 2012 at 1:44 PM, Dmitriy Ryaboy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> It's an unfortunate standard -- I saw people (new to the jira /
>> apache) using that tag as "I am a newbie and I have this problem",
>> where the problem is quite complicated. Also, I don't like the term
>> newbie in general :-).
>> I'll edit confluence to have the right link.
>>
>> D
>>
>> On Mon, Apr 30, 2012 at 9:26 AM, Jakob Homan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>> 'newbie' is becoming the standard, or at least has been adopted in at
>>> least Hadoop, Giraph, Kafka and Hive.
>>>
>>> On Sun, Apr 29, 2012 at 9:17 PM, Bill Graham <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>>> The bottom of the how to contribute page still references the 'newbie' tag,
>>>> with a link to a broken JIRA filter:
>>>>
>>>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/PIG/HowToContribute
>>>>
>>>> We should swap in this link. Should we just change to use simple and get
>>>> rid of the newbie tag? Or do we say to look for either?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Sun, Apr 29, 2012 at 3:44 PM, Dmitriy Ryaboy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I marked a few issues as "simple", and I noticed at some point earlier
>>>>> we seem to have done a similar excercise labeling issues as "newbie".
>>>>> If you are a newcomer wishing to contribute to the project, these
>>>>> might be a good place to start. Check 'em out:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/IssueNavigator.jspa?reset=true&jqlQuery=project+%3D+PIG+AND+%28labels+%3D+newbie+OR+labels+%3D+simple%29+and+status+%3D+open
>>>>>
>>>>> D
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> *Note that I'm no longer using my Yahoo! email address. Please email me at
>>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] going forward.*

So, did we reach an agreement?
Will "simple" be the standard? I also personally don't like newbie and
acronyms are not self-explanatory.

Whatever we do we should document it in the wiki.

Cheers,
--
Gianmarco
On Mon, May 7, 2012 at 5:49 PM, Jeremy Hanna <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote:

> fwiw - the cassandra project adopted lhf for "low hanging fruit" to avoid
> being condescending but yeah - sounds like newbie has become a standard for
> other projects.
>
> e.g.
> https://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/IssueNavigator.jspa?reset=true&jqlQuery=project+%3D+12310865+AND+labels+%3D+lhf+AND+status+!%3D+resolved
>
> On May 5, 2012, at 9:57 PM, Jakob Homan wrote:
>
> > I agree.  My choice had been 'starter-issues.'  Oh, well.
> >
> > On Mon, Apr 30, 2012 at 1:44 PM, Dmitriy Ryaboy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
> >> It's an unfortunate standard -- I saw people (new to the jira /
> >> apache) using that tag as "I am a newbie and I have this problem",
> >> where the problem is quite complicated. Also, I don't like the term
> >> newbie in general :-).
> >> I'll edit confluence to have the right link.
> >>
> >> D
> >>
> >> On Mon, Apr 30, 2012 at 9:26 AM, Jakob Homan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >>> 'newbie' is becoming the standard, or at least has been adopted in at
> >>> least Hadoop, Giraph, Kafka and Hive.
> >>>
> >>> On Sun, Apr 29, 2012 at 9:17 PM, Bill Graham <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
> >>>> The bottom of the how to contribute page still references the
> 'newbie' tag,
> >>>> with a link to a broken JIRA filter:
> >>>>
> >>>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/PIG/HowToContribute
> >>>>
> >>>> We should swap in this link. Should we just change to use simple and
> get
> >>>> rid of the newbie tag? Or do we say to look for either?
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> On Sun, Apr 29, 2012 at 3:44 PM, Dmitriy Ryaboy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>> I marked a few issues as "simple", and I noticed at some point
> earlier
> >>>>> we seem to have done a similar excercise labeling issues as "newbie".
> >>>>> If you are a newcomer wishing to contribute to the project, these
> >>>>> might be a good place to start. Check 'em out:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> https://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/IssueNavigator.jspa?reset=true&jqlQuery=project+%3D+PIG+AND+%28labels+%3D+newbie+OR+labels+%3D+simple%29+and+status+%3D+open
> >>>>>
> >>>>> D
> >>>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> --
> >>>> *Note that I'm no longer using my Yahoo! email address. Please email
> me at
> >>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] going forward.*
>
>

The bit.ly link has some traction using newbie:
https://bitly.com/asf_newbie_issues+
On Thu, May 10, 2012 at 3:46 AM, Gianmarco De Francisci Morales
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> So, did we reach an agreement?
> Will "simple" be the standard? I also personally don't like newbie and
> acronyms are not self-explanatory.
>
> Whatever we do we should document it in the wiki.
>
> Cheers,
> --
> Gianmarco
>
>
>
>
> On Mon, May 7, 2012 at 5:49 PM, Jeremy Hanna <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote:
>
>> fwiw - the cassandra project adopted lhf for "low hanging fruit" to avoid
>> being condescending but yeah - sounds like newbie has become a standard for
>> other projects.
>>
>> e.g.
>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/IssueNavigator.jspa?reset=true&jqlQuery=project+%3D+12310865+AND+labels+%3D+lhf+AND+status+!%3D+resolved
>>
>> On May 5, 2012, at 9:57 PM, Jakob Homan wrote:
>>
>> > I agree.  My choice had been 'starter-issues.'  Oh, well.
>> >
>> > On Mon, Apr 30, 2012 at 1:44 PM, Dmitriy Ryaboy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> wrote:
>> >> It's an unfortunate standard -- I saw people (new to the jira /
>> >> apache) using that tag as "I am a newbie and I have this problem",
>> >> where the problem is quite complicated. Also, I don't like the term
>> >> newbie in general :-).
>> >> I'll edit confluence to have the right link.
>> >>
>> >> D
>> >>
>> >> On Mon, Apr 30, 2012 at 9:26 AM, Jakob Homan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> >>> 'newbie' is becoming the standard, or at least has been adopted in at
>> >>> least Hadoop, Giraph, Kafka and Hive.
>> >>>
>> >>> On Sun, Apr 29, 2012 at 9:17 PM, Bill Graham <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> wrote:
>> >>>> The bottom of the how to contribute page still references the
>> 'newbie' tag,
>> >>>> with a link to a broken JIRA filter:
>> >>>>
>> >>>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/PIG/HowToContribute
>> >>>>
>> >>>> We should swap in this link. Should we just change to use simple and
>> get
>> >>>> rid of the newbie tag? Or do we say to look for either?
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>> On Sun, Apr 29, 2012 at 3:44 PM, Dmitriy Ryaboy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> wrote:
>> >>>>
>> >>>>> I marked a few issues as "simple", and I noticed at some point
>> earlier
>> >>>>> we seem to have done a similar excercise labeling issues as "newbie".
>> >>>>> If you are a newcomer wishing to contribute to the project, these
>> >>>>> might be a good place to start. Check 'em out:
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>
>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/IssueNavigator.jspa?reset=true&jqlQuery=project+%3D+PIG+AND+%28labels+%3D+newbie+OR+labels+%3D+simple%29+and+status+%3D+open
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> D
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>> --
>> >>>> *Note that I'm no longer using my Yahoo! email address. Please email
>> me at
>> >>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] going forward.*
>>
>>