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Re: Question about HA and Federation
ESGLinux 2012-12-21, 08:38
Thank you Harsh J.

first point checked (decide what to do) now I have to do it ;-)

Kind regards,

ESGLinux

2012/12/21 Harsh J <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

> Appears alright to me!
>
> On Fri, Dec 21, 2012 at 1:15 PM, ESGLinux <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > Finally I´m going to try this:
> >
> > 1 Machine: Active Name Node for NS1
> > 1 Machine: Passive Name Node for NS1
> > 1 Machine: NameNode for NS2 + NameNode for NS3
> > 1 Machine: Secondary NameNode for NS2 + Secondary NameNode for NS3
> >
> > Is this correct?
> >
> > thanks,
> >
> > ESGLinux
> >
> > 2012/12/20 Harsh J <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >>
> >> Btw, you can co-locate NameNodes (unique namespace ones) onto the same
> >> machine if you need to - the configs easily allow this via rpc/http
> >> port specifiers.
> >>
> >> On Thu, Dec 20, 2012 at 11:33 PM, ESGLinux <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >> > Thank you very much,
> >> >
> >> > your answer have clarified me these concepts very much,
> >> >
> >> > I didn't understand how could I mix HA and Federation and how many
> nodes
> >> > I
> >> > need....
> >> >
> >> > Kind Regards,
> >> >
> >> > ESGLinux,
> >> >
> >> > 2012/12/20 Harsh J <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >> >>
> >> >> Yes I think its safe to say that - sorry that I missed out SNNs in my
> >> >> first response (I counted only the regular serving namenodes) :)
> >> >>
> >> >> On Thu, Dec 20, 2012 at 11:25 PM, ESGLinux <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
> >> >> > Hi again,
> >> >> >
> >> >> > So finally the number of nodes are these:
> >> >> >
> >> >> > 1 Active NameNode + 1 Passive NameNode (it does the work of the old
> >> >> > Secondary NameNode) for NS1 NameSpace (these are 2 diferent
> machines)
> >> >> > 1 NameNode for NS2 + 1 Secondary NameNode
> >> >> > 1 NameNode for NS3 + 1 Secondary NameNode
> >> >> >
> >> >> > We can say that we need 2 nodes per NameSpace, is that true?
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Thanks,
> >> >> >
> >> >> > ESGLinux
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> > 2012/12/20 Harsh J <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> Hi,
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> To put it simply: If you use a NameNode, you need a
> >> >> >> SecondaryNameNode.
> >> >> >> In HA-mode, a StandbyNameNode acts as a SecondaryNameNode (so you
> >> >> >> don't need to run an extra).
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> Either way, you definitely need the checkpoint operation happening
> >> >> >> and
> >> >> >> being monitored for.
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> On Thu, Dec 20, 2012 at 11:09 PM, ESGLinux <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >> >> >> wrote:
> >> >> >> > Hi Harsh,
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> > First thank you very much for your answer,
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> > following your example:
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> > You have:
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> > 1 Active NameNode + 1 Passive NameNode (it does the work of the
> >> >> >> > old
> >> >> >> > Secondary NameNode) for NS1 NameSpace (these are 2 diferent
> >> >> >> > machines)
> >> >> >> > 1 NameNode for NS2
> >> >> >> > 1 NameNode for NS3
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> > but what about the Secondary Name Nodes for NS2 and NS3? or I
> >> >> >> > don´t
> >> >> >> > need
> >> >> >> > it?
> >> >> >> > perhaps I´m mixing concepts....
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> > Thanks again,
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> > Greetings,
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> > ESGLinux
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> > 2012/12/20 Harsh J <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> Hi ESGLinux,
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> Federation and HA are two distinct features that share some
> >> >> >> >> common
> >> >> >> >> properties but nothing more. You can turn on HA for any
> selected
> >> >> >> >> Namespace but it is not necessarily needed to be that all
> >> >> >> >> Namespaces
> >> >> >> >> have HA.
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> Perhaps an example will clear it up for you.
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> I have a local instance that is configured to run several
> >> >> >> >> namespaces:
> >> >> >> >> ns1, ns2, and ns3 (Federated Namespaces).
> >> >> >> >> The namespace ns1 hosts my HBase tables and is critical to me,