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Re: [DISCUSS] HCatalog becoming a subproject of Hive
I would suggest looking over the patch history of HCat committers.  I think most of them have already contributed a number of patches to the metastore.  All are certainly aware of how to run Hive unit tests and have an understanding of how Hive works.  So I don't think it's fair to say they would be unsafe with access to the metastore.  And the Hive PMC is there to assure this does not happen.  If there are issues I am sure they can deal with them.

On Nov 6, 2012, at 8:06 PM, Namit Jain wrote:

> Alan, that would not be a good idea. Metastore code is part of hive code,
> and it
> would be safer if only Hive committers had commit access to that.
> On 11/6/12 11:25 PM, "Alan Gates" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> On Nov 4, 2012, at 8:35 PM, Namit Jain wrote:
>>> I like the idea of Hcatalog becoming a Hive sub-project. The
>>> enhancements/bugs in the serde/metastore areas can indirectly
>>> benefit the hive community, and it will be easier for the fix to be in
>>> one
>>> place. Having said that, I don't see serde/metastore
>>> moving out of hive into a separate component. Things are tied too
>>> closely
>>> together. I am assuming that no new committers would
>>> be automatically added to Hive as part of this, and both Hive and
>>> HCatalog
>>> will continue to have its own committers.
>> One thing in this we'd like to discuss is the HCatalog committers having
>> commit access to the metastore sections of Hive code.  That doesn't mean
>> it has to move into HCatalog's code base.  But more and more the fixes
>> and changes we're doing in HCatalog are really in Hive's metastore.  So
>> we believe it would make sense to give HCat committers access to that
>> component as well as HCat.
>> Alan.
>>> Thanks,
>>> -namit
>>> On 11/3/12 2:22 AM, "Alan Gates" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>>> Hello Hive community.  It is time for HCatalog to graduate from the
>>>> Apache Incubator.  Given the heavy dependence of HCatalog on Hive the
>>>> HCatalog community agreed it made sense to explore graduating from the
>>>> Incubator to become a subproject of Hive (see
>>>> http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/incubator-hcatalog-user/201209.
>>>> mb
>>>> ox/%3C08C40723-8D4D-48EB-942B-8EE4327DD84A%40hortonworks.com%3E and
>>>> http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/incubator-hcatalog-user/201210.
>>>> mb
>>>> ox/%3CCABN7xTCRM5wXGgJKEko0PmqDXhuAYpK%2BD-H57T29zcSGhkwGQw%40mail.gmail
>>>> .c
>>>> om%3E ).  To help both communities understand what HCatalog is and
>>>> hopes
>>>> to become we also developed a roadmap that summarizes HCatalog's
>>>> current
>>>> features, planned features, and other possible features under
>>>> discussion:
>>>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/HCATALOG/HCatalog+Roadmap
>>>> So we are now approaching you to see if there is agreement in the Hive
>>>> community that HCatalog graduating into Hive would make sense.
>>>> Alan.