Just saw this on Stack Overflow (St.Ack Overflow?)

http://stackoverflow.com/questions/12981281/new-hbase-installation-very-slow

"What could be so wrong that an out-of-the-box install with zero configuration (apart from settingJAVA_HOME in hbase-env.sh) would exhibit this behaviour?"

Ian

This was a ZK issue with JDK7 (
https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/ZOOKEEPER-1477). I don't follow how
it is configuration related? Maybe a packaging issue?

On Fri, Oct 19, 2012 at 12:59 PM, Ian Varley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Just saw this on Stack Overflow (St.Ack Overflow?)
>
>
> http://stackoverflow.com/questions/12981281/new-hbase-installation-very-slow
>
> "What could be so wrong that an out-of-the-box install with zero
> configuration (apart from settingJAVA_HOME in hbase-env.sh) would exhibit
> this behaviour?"
>
> Ian
>
--
Best regards,

   - Andy

Problems worthy of attack prove their worth by hitting back. - Piet Hein
(via Tom White)

Yes, file under packaging as it turns out.

But, still file under "crappy out of the box experience". :)

On Oct 19, 2012, at 4:02 PM, Andrew Purtell wrote:

This was a ZK issue with JDK7 (
https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/ZOOKEEPER-1477). I don't follow how
it is configuration related? Maybe a packaging issue?

On Fri, Oct 19, 2012 at 12:59 PM, Ian Varley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]<mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> wrote:

Just saw this on Stack Overflow (St.Ack Overflow?)
http://stackoverflow.com/questions/12981281/new-hbase-installation-very-slow

"What could be so wrong that an out-of-the-box install with zero
configuration (apart from settingJAVA_HOME in hbase-env.sh) would exhibit
this behaviour?"

Ian

--
Best regards,

  - Andy

Problems worthy of attack prove their worth by hitting back. - Piet Hein
(via Tom White)

Yes.

One thing we could try is pointing would-be users from the wiki, main page,
and download page prominently to Bigtop artifacts?

On Fri, Oct 19, 2012 at 2:03 PM, Ian Varley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Yes, file under packaging as it turns out.
>
> But, still file under "crappy out of the box experience". :)
>
> On Oct 19, 2012, at 4:02 PM, Andrew Purtell wrote:
>
> This was a ZK issue with JDK7 (
> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/ZOOKEEPER-1477). I don't follow how
> it is configuration related? Maybe a packaging issue?
>
> On Fri, Oct 19, 2012 at 12:59 PM, Ian Varley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> wrote:
>
> Just saw this on Stack Overflow (St.Ack Overflow?)
>
>
>
> http://stackoverflow.com/questions/12981281/new-hbase-installation-very-slow
>
> "What could be so wrong that an out-of-the-box install with zero
> configuration (apart from settingJAVA_HOME in hbase-env.sh) would exhibit
> this behaviour?"
>
> Ian
>

--
Best regards,

   - Andy

Problems worthy of attack prove their worth by hitting back. - Piet Hein
(via Tom White)

On Fri, Oct 19, 2012 at 2:08 PM, Andrew Purtell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Yes.
>
> One thing we could try is pointing would-be users from the wiki, main page,
> and download page prominently to Bigtop artifacts?
>

If you write up the paragraph, I'll put it everywhere Andrew.

Thanks,
St.Ack

How about:

"Apache Bigtop is an umbrella for packaging and tests of the Apache Hadoop
ecosystem, including Apache HBase. Bigtop performs testing at various
levels (packaging, platform, runtime, upgrade, etc...), developed by a
community, with a focus on the system as a whole, rather than individual
projects. We recommend installing Apache HBase packages as provided by a
Bigtop release rather than rolling your own piecemeal integration of
various component releases."

On Fri, Oct 19, 2012 at 5:47 PM, Stack <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> On Fri, Oct 19, 2012 at 2:08 PM, Andrew Purtell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
> > Yes.
> >
> > One thing we could try is pointing would-be users from the wiki, main
> page,
> > and download page prominently to Bigtop artifacts?
> >
>
> If you write up the paragraph, I'll put it everywhere Andrew.
>
> Thanks,
> St.Ack
>

--
Best regards,

   - Andy

Problems worthy of attack prove their worth by hitting back. - Piet Hein
(via Tom White)

Thanks Andy.. I can try suggesting this to our team also.

On Sat, Oct 20, 2012 at 6:25 AM, Andrew Purtell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> How about:
>
> "Apache Bigtop is an umbrella for packaging and tests of the Apache Hadoop
> ecosystem, including Apache HBase. Bigtop performs testing at various
> levels (packaging, platform, runtime, upgrade, etc...), developed by a
> community, with a focus on the system as a whole, rather than individual
> projects. We recommend installing Apache HBase packages as provided by a
> Bigtop release rather than rolling your own piecemeal integration of
> various component releases."
>
> On Fri, Oct 19, 2012 at 5:47 PM, Stack <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > On Fri, Oct 19, 2012 at 2:08 PM, Andrew Purtell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > wrote:
> > > Yes.
> > >
> > > One thing we could try is pointing would-be users from the wiki, main
> > page,
> > > and download page prominently to Bigtop artifacts?
> > >
> >
> > If you write up the paragraph, I'll put it everywhere Andrew.
> >
> > Thanks,
> > St.Ack
> >
>
>
>
> --
> Best regards,
>
>    - Andy
>
> Problems worthy of attack prove their worth by hitting back. - Piet Hein
> (via Tom White)
>

On Fri, Oct 19, 2012 at 5:55 PM, Andrew Purtell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> How about:
>
> "Apache Bigtop is an umbrella for packaging and tests of the Apache Hadoop
> ecosystem, including Apache HBase. Bigtop performs testing at various
> levels (packaging, platform, runtime, upgrade, etc...), developed by a
> community, with a focus on the system as a whole, rather than individual
> projects. We recommend installing Apache HBase packages as provided by a
> Bigtop release rather than rolling your own piecemeal integration of
> various component releases."
>

I added it to the manual into the hadoop section.  Pushing up the site
now so should show soon.  Thanks Andrew.
St.Ack