I saw an ASF announcement that there's now a review board instance
available, it will be nice if we can try it out.

https://blogs.apache.org/infra/entry/reviewboard_instance_running_at_the

I filed the following JIRA to see if we can use review board to review
Hadoop JIRAS.

https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-3108

thanks,
dhruba

On Tue, Oct 26, 2010 at 2:50 PM, Dhruba Borthakur <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I saw an ASF announcement that there's now a review board instance
> available, it will be nice if we can try it out.

+1  Thanks Dhruba.

Thanks,
Eli

+1

On Oct 26, 2010, at 2:50 PM, Dhruba Borthakur wrote:

> I saw an ASF announcement that there's now a review board instance
> available, it will be nice if we can try it out.
>
> https://blogs.apache.org/infra/entry/reviewboard_instance_running_at_the
>
> I filed the following JIRA to see if we can use review board to review
> Hadoop JIRAS.
>
> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-3108
>
> thanks,
> dhruba

It looks very hard to follow.
I have really hard time matching jira and review board comments.
Especially when they interleave.
Why again do we need a second system for tracking issues?
--Konstantin

On Tue, Oct 26, 2010 at 3:49 PM, Arun C Murthy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> +1
>
> On Oct 26, 2010, at 2:50 PM, Dhruba Borthakur wrote:
>
> I saw an ASF announcement that there's now a review board instance
>> available, it will be nice if we can try it out.
>>
>> https://blogs.apache.org/infra/entry/reviewboard_instance_running_at_the
>>
>> I filed the following JIRA to see if we can use review board to review
>> Hadoop JIRAS.
>>
>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-3108
>>
>> thanks,
>> dhruba
>>
>
>

Hey Cos,

I think the setup used for Hive and HBase posts the RB comments to the
jira which makes it easier to follow.

RB isn't a second system for tracking issues, jira isn't a code review
system, and RB isn't an issue tracker. I think the idea is to have
issue/design-level discussion on jira and code-level discussion on RB.

Thanks,
Eli

On Tue, Nov 2, 2010 at 10:43 PM, Konstantin Shvachko
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> It looks very hard to follow.
> I have really hard time matching jira and review board comments.
> Especially when they interleave.
> Why again do we need a second system for tracking issues?
> --Konstantin
>
> On Tue, Oct 26, 2010 at 3:49 PM, Arun C Murthy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>> +1
>>
>> On Oct 26, 2010, at 2:50 PM, Dhruba Borthakur wrote:
>>
>> I saw an ASF announcement that there's now a review board instance
>>> available, it will be nice if we can try it out.
>>>
>>> https://blogs.apache.org/infra/entry/reviewboard_instance_running_at_the
>>>
>>> I filed the following JIRA to see if we can use review board to review
>>> Hadoop JIRAS.
>>>
>>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-3108
>>>
>>> thanks,
>>> dhruba
>>>
>>
>>
>

Hey Eli.

the explanation is right on the money except that other Konstantin was asking ;)

Cos

On Wed, Nov 03, 2010 at 10:56AM, Eli Collins wrote:
> Hey Cos,
>
> I think the setup used for Hive and HBase posts the RB comments to the
> jira which makes it easier to follow.
>
> RB isn't a second system for tracking issues, jira isn't a code review
> system, and RB isn't an issue tracker. I think the idea is to have
> issue/design-level discussion on jira and code-level discussion on RB.
>
> Thanks,
> Eli
>
> On Tue, Nov 2, 2010 at 10:43 PM, Konstantin Shvachko
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > It looks very hard to follow.
> > I have really hard time matching jira and review board comments.
> > Especially when they interleave.
> > Why again do we need a second system for tracking issues?
> > --Konstantin
> >
> > On Tue, Oct 26, 2010 at 3:49 PM, Arun C Murthy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> >> +1
> >>
> >> On Oct 26, 2010, at 2:50 PM, Dhruba Borthakur wrote:
> >>
> >> I saw an ASF announcement that there's now a review board instance
> >>> available, it will be nice if we can try it out.
> >>>
> >>> https://blogs.apache.org/infra/entry/reviewboard_instance_running_at_the
> >>>
> >>> I filed the following JIRA to see if we can use review board to review
> >>> Hadoop JIRAS.
> >>>
> >>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-3108
> >>>
> >>> thanks,
> >>> dhruba
> >>>
> >>
> >>
> >

> I think the idea is to have issue/design-level discussion on jira and
code-level discussion on RB.

This is exactly my question. Why do we need two places to have the same
discussion?
Even if the comments are automatically replicated in jira and/or vice versa.
Why not choose one and stick with it?

Thanks,
--Konst

On Wed, Nov 3, 2010 at 10:56 AM, Eli Collins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Hey Cos,
>
> I think the setup used for Hive and HBase posts the RB comments to the
> jira which makes it easier to follow.
>
> RB isn't a second system for tracking issues, jira isn't a code review
> system, and RB isn't an issue tracker. I think the idea is to have
> issue/design-level discussion on jira and code-level discussion on RB.
>
> Thanks,
> Eli
>
> On Tue, Nov 2, 2010 at 10:43 PM, Konstantin Shvachko
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > It looks very hard to follow.
> > I have really hard time matching jira and review board comments.
> > Especially when they interleave.
> > Why again do we need a second system for tracking issues?
> > --Konstantin
> >
> > On Tue, Oct 26, 2010 at 3:49 PM, Arun C Murthy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
> >
> >> +1
> >>
> >> On Oct 26, 2010, at 2:50 PM, Dhruba Borthakur wrote:
> >>
> >> I saw an ASF announcement that there's now a review board instance
> >>> available, it will be nice if we can try it out.
> >>>
> >>>
> https://blogs.apache.org/infra/entry/reviewboard_instance_running_at_the
> >>>
> >>> I filed the following JIRA to see if we can use review board to review
> >>> Hadoop JIRAS.
> >>>
> >>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-3108
> >>>
> >>> thanks,
> >>> dhruba
> >>>
> >>
> >>
> >
>

Hey Konstantin,

have you seen how you can comment on patches and see side by side the
changes in RB?

It is quite handy.

Alejandro

On Thu, Nov 4, 2010 at 2:15 PM, Konstantin Shvachko <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote:

>  > I think the idea is to have issue/design-level discussion on jira and
> code-level discussion on RB.
>
> This is exactly my question. Why do we need two places to have the same
> discussion?
> Even if the comments are automatically replicated in jira and/or vice
> versa.
> Why not choose one and stick with it?
>
> Thanks,
> --Konst
>
> On Wed, Nov 3, 2010 at 10:56 AM, Eli Collins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > Hey Cos,
> >
> > I think the setup used for Hive and HBase posts the RB comments to the
> > jira which makes it easier to follow.
> >
> > RB isn't a second system for tracking issues, jira isn't a code review
> > system, and RB isn't an issue tracker. I think the idea is to have
> > issue/design-level discussion on jira and code-level discussion on RB.
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Eli
> >
> > On Tue, Nov 2, 2010 at 10:43 PM, Konstantin Shvachko
> > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > It looks very hard to follow.
> > > I have really hard time matching jira and review board comments.
> > > Especially when they interleave.
> > > Why again do we need a second system for tracking issues?
> > > --Konstantin
> > >
> > > On Tue, Oct 26, 2010 at 3:49 PM, Arun C Murthy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > wrote:
> > >
> > >> +1
> > >>
> > >> On Oct 26, 2010, at 2:50 PM, Dhruba Borthakur wrote:
> > >>
> > >> I saw an ASF announcement that there's now a review board instance
> > >>> available, it will be nice if we can try it out.
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > https://blogs.apache.org/infra/entry/reviewboard_instance_running_at_the
> > >>>
> > >>> I filed the following JIRA to see if we can use review board to
> review
> > >>> Hadoop JIRAS.
> > >>>
> > >>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-3108
> > >>>
> > >>> thanks,
> > >>> dhruba
> > >>>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >
> >
>

On Wed, Nov 3, 2010 at 11:15 PM, Konstantin Shvachko
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>  > I think the idea is to have issue/design-level discussion on jira and
> code-level discussion on RB.
>
> This is exactly my question. Why do we need two places to have the same
> discussion?
> Even if the comments are automatically replicated in jira and/or vice versa.
> Why not choose one and stick with it?

For a lot of jiras issue level discussion (what's the problem? how
should we solve it?) is very different from code level discussion
(does this code do what we claim it should? Is it sufficient to be
checked in?).

Thanks,
Eli

>
> Thanks,
> --Konst
>
> On Wed, Nov 3, 2010 at 10:56 AM, Eli Collins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>> Hey Cos,
>>
>> I think the setup used for Hive and HBase posts the RB comments to the
>> jira which makes it easier to follow.
>>
>> RB isn't a second system for tracking issues, jira isn't a code review
>> system, and RB isn't an issue tracker. I think the idea is to have
>> issue/design-level discussion on jira and code-level discussion on RB.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Eli
>>
>> On Tue, Nov 2, 2010 at 10:43 PM, Konstantin Shvachko
>> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> > It looks very hard to follow.
>> > I have really hard time matching jira and review board comments.
>> > Especially when they interleave.
>> > Why again do we need a second system for tracking issues?
>> > --Konstantin
>> >
>> > On Tue, Oct 26, 2010 at 3:49 PM, Arun C Murthy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> wrote:
>> >
>> >> +1
>> >>
>> >> On Oct 26, 2010, at 2:50 PM, Dhruba Borthakur wrote:
>> >>
>> >> I saw an ASF announcement that there's now a review board instance
>> >>> available, it will be nice if we can try it out.
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> https://blogs.apache.org/infra/entry/reviewboard_instance_running_at_the
>> >>>
>> >>> I filed the following JIRA to see if we can use review board to review
>> >>> Hadoop JIRAS.
>> >>>
>> >>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-3108
>> >>>
>> >>> thanks,
>> >>> dhruba
>> >>>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >
>>
>

Yes, it is pretty handy. It would be really cool to have it integrated with
Jira.
But having comments in two different places is extremely distracting.

Is it only me who finds it hard to match jira messages with RB ones,
and duplicating the descriptions, affected versions, etc. in both systems?

--Konstantin
On Wed, Nov 3, 2010 at 11:19 PM, Alejandro Abdelnur <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote:

> Hey Konstantin,
>
> have you seen how you can comment on patches and see side by side the
> changes in RB?
>
> It is quite handy.
>
> Alejandro
>
> On Thu, Nov 4, 2010 at 2:15 PM, Konstantin Shvachko <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >wrote:
>
> >  > I think the idea is to have issue/design-level discussion on jira and
> > code-level discussion on RB.
> >
> > This is exactly my question. Why do we need two places to have the same
> > discussion?
> > Even if the comments are automatically replicated in jira and/or vice
> > versa.
> > Why not choose one and stick with it?
> >
> > Thanks,
> > --Konst
> >
> > On Wed, Nov 3, 2010 at 10:56 AM, Eli Collins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > > Hey Cos,
> > >
> > > I think the setup used for Hive and HBase posts the RB comments to the
> > > jira which makes it easier to follow.
> > >
> > > RB isn't a second system for tracking issues, jira isn't a code review
> > > system, and RB isn't an issue tracker. I think the idea is to have
> > > issue/design-level discussion on jira and code-level discussion on RB.
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > > Eli
> > >
> > > On Tue, Nov 2, 2010 at 10:43 PM, Konstantin Shvachko
> > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > > It looks very hard to follow.
> > > > I have really hard time matching jira and review board comments.
> > > > Especially when they interleave.
> > > > Why again do we need a second system for tracking issues?
> > > > --Konstantin
> > > >
> > > > On Tue, Oct 26, 2010 at 3:49 PM, Arun C Murthy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > >> +1
> > > >>
> > > >> On Oct 26, 2010, at 2:50 PM, Dhruba Borthakur wrote:
> > > >>
> > > >> I saw an ASF announcement that there's now a review board instance
> > > >>> available, it will be nice if we can try it out.
> > > >>>
> > > >>>
> > >
> https://blogs.apache.org/infra/entry/reviewboard_instance_running_at_the
> > > >>>
> > > >>> I filed the following JIRA to see if we can use review board to
> > review
> > > >>> Hadoop JIRAS.
> > > >>>
> > > >>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-3108
> > > >>>
> > > >>> thanks,
> > > >>> dhruba
> > > >>>
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >
> > >
> >
>

Konst,

  Todd has volunteered to get RB to send msgs directly to jira, that  
should help...

Arun

On Nov 3, 2010, at 11:58 PM, Konstantin Shvachko wrote:

> Yes, it is pretty handy. It would be really cool to have it  
> integrated with
> Jira.
> But having comments in two different places is extremely distracting.
>
> Is it only me who finds it hard to match jira messages with RB ones,
> and duplicating the descriptions, affected versions, etc. in both  
> systems?
>
> --Konstantin
>
>
> On Wed, Nov 3, 2010 at 11:19 PM, Alejandro Abdelnur  
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote:
>
>> Hey Konstantin,
>>
>> have you seen how you can comment on patches and see side by side the
>> changes in RB?
>>
>> It is quite handy.
>>
>> Alejandro
>>
>> On Thu, Nov 4, 2010 at 2:15 PM, Konstantin Shvachko <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>> wrote:
>>
>>>> I think the idea is to have issue/design-level discussion on jira  
>>>> and
>>> code-level discussion on RB.
>>>
>>> This is exactly my question. Why do we need two places to have the  
>>> same
>>> discussion?
>>> Even if the comments are automatically replicated in jira and/or  
>>> vice
>>> versa.
>>> Why not choose one and stick with it?
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> --Konst
>>>
>>> On Wed, Nov 3, 2010 at 10:56 AM, Eli Collins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>  
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hey Cos,
>>>>
>>>> I think the setup used for Hive and HBase posts the RB comments  
>>>> to the
>>>> jira which makes it easier to follow.
>>>>
>>>> RB isn't a second system for tracking issues, jira isn't a code  
>>>> review
>>>> system, and RB isn't an issue tracker. I think the idea is to have
>>>> issue/design-level discussion on jira and code-level discussion  
>>>> on RB.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks,
>>>> Eli
>>>>
>>>> On Tue, Nov 2, 2010 at 10:43 PM, Konstantin Shvachko
>>>> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>>>> It looks very hard to follow.
>>>>> I have really hard time matching jira and review board comments.
>>>>> Especially when they interleave.
>>>>> Why again do we need a second system for tracking issues?
>>>>> --Konstantin
>>>>>
>>>>> On Tue, Oct 26, 2010 at 3:49 PM, Arun C Murthy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> +1
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Oct 26, 2010, at 2:50 PM, Dhruba Borthakur wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I saw an ASF announcement that there's now a review board  
>>>>>> instance
>>>>>>> available, it will be nice if we can try it out.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>
>> https://blogs.apache.org/infra/entry/reviewboard_instance_running_at_the
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I filed the following JIRA to see if we can use review board to
>>> review
>>>>>>> Hadoop JIRAS.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-3108
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> thanks,
>>>>>>> dhruba
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>