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Mohammad Tariq 2013-05-11, 17:37
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Mohammad Tariq 2013-05-12, 12:09
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Rahul Bhattacharjee 2013-05-12, 12:33
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Re: Need help about task slots
sorry for my blunder as well. my previous post for for Tariq in a wrong
post.

Thanks.
Rahul
On Sun, May 12, 2013 at 6:03 PM, Rahul Bhattacharjee <
[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Oh! I though distcp works on complete files rather then mappers per
> datablock.
> So I guess parallelism would still be there if there are multipel files..
> please correct if ther is anything wrong.
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> Thank,
> Rahul
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> On Sun, May 12, 2013 at 5:39 PM, Mohammad Tariq <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote:
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>> @Rahul : I'm sorry as I am not aware of any such document. But you could
>> use distcp for local to HDFS copy :
>> *bin/hadoop  distcp  file:///home/tariq/in.txt  hdfs://localhost:9000/*
>> *
>> *
>> And yes. When you use distcp from local to HDFS, you can't take the
>> pleasure of parallelism as the data is stored in a non distributed fashion.
>>
>> Warm Regards,
>> Tariq
>> cloudfront.blogspot.com
>>
>>
>> On Sat, May 11, 2013 at 11:07 PM, Mohammad Tariq <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote:
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>>> Hello guys,
>>>
>>>              My 2 cents :
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>>> Actually no. of mappers is primarily governed by the no. of InputSplits
>>> created by the InputFormat you are using and the no. of reducers by the no.
>>> of partitions you get after the map phase. Having said that, you should
>>> also keep the no of slots, available per slave, in mind, along with the
>>> available memory. But as a general rule you could use this approach :
>>>
>>> Take the no. of virtual CPUs*.75 and that's the no. of slots you can
>>> configure. For example, if you have 12 physical cores (or 24 virtual
>>> cores), you would have (24*.75)=18 slots. Now, based on your requirement
>>> you could choose how many mappers and reducers you want to use. With 18 MR
>>> slots, you could have 9 mappers and 9 reducers or 12 mappers and 9 reducers
>>> or whatever you think is OK with you.
>>>
>>> I don't know if it ,makes much sense, but it helps me pretty decently.
>>>
>>> Warm Regards,
>>> Tariq
>>> cloudfront.blogspot.com
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sat, May 11, 2013 at 8:57 PM, Rahul Bhattacharjee <
>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi,
>>>>
>>>> I am also new to Hadoop world , here is my take on your question , if
>>>> there is something missing then others would surely correct that.
>>>>
>>>> For per-YARN , the slots are fixed and computed based on the crunching
>>>> capacity of the datanode hardware , once the slots per data node is
>>>> ascertained , they are divided into Map and reducer slots and that goes
>>>> into the config files and remain fixed , until changed.In YARN , its
>>>> decided at runtime based on the kind of requirement of particular task.Its
>>>> very much possible that a datanode at certain point of time running  10
>>>> tasks and another similar datanode is only running 4 tasks.
>>>>
>>>> Coming to your question. Based of the data set size , block size of dfs
>>>> and input formater , the number of map tasks are decided , generally for
>>>> file based inputformats its one mapper per data block , however there are
>>>> way to change this using configuration settings.Reduce tasks are set using
>>>> job configuration.
>>>>
>>>> General rule as I have read from various documents is that Mappers
>>>> should run atleast a minute , so you can run a sample to find out a good
>>>> size of data block which would make you mapper run more than a minute. Now
>>>> it again depends on your SLA , in case you are not looking for a very small
>>>> SLA you can choose to run less mappers at the expense of higher runtime.
>>>>
>>>> But again its all theory , not sure how these things are handled in
>>>> actual prod clusters.
>>>>
>>>> HTH,
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Thanks,
>>>> Rahul
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Sat, May 11, 2013 at 8:02 PM, Shashidhar Rao <
>>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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>>>>> Hi Users,
>>>>>
>>>>> I am new to Hadoop and confused about task slots in a cluster. How
>>>>> would I know how many task slots would be required for a job. Is there any
>>>>> empirical formula or on what basis should I set the number of task slots.
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Mohammad Tariq 2013-05-12, 12:36