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[DISCUSS] git as the primary data source

Chris Burroughs 2012-07-26, 15:39

It came up in the 0.7.2 thread that with the number of parallel branches
git may be preferable to svn for our current and future workflow. I'd
like to gauge interest in possibly switching from svn to git.

Currently INFRA can provide read/write git hosting at
https://git-wip-us.apache.org/. Repository list:
https://git-wip-us.apache.org/repos/asf To summarise there are a few
caveats:
* Support is less polished than svn, and any problems may take longer
to fix.
* Someone from migrating projects ought to volunteer to assist INFRA if
needed (I volunteer).

Re: [DISCUSS] git as the primary data source

Neha Narkhede 2012-07-26, 15:40

+1 for moving to git.

Thanks,
Neha

On Thu, Jul 26, 2012 at 8:39 AM, Chris Burroughs
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> It came up in the 0.7.2 thread that with the number of parallel branches
> git may be preferable to svn for our current and future workflow. I'd
> like to gauge interest in possibly switching from svn to git.
>
> Currently INFRA can provide read/write git hosting at
> https://git-wip-us.apache.org/. Repository list:
> https://git-wip-us.apache.org/repos/asf To summarise there are a few
> caveats:
> * Support is less polished than svn, and any problems may take longer
> to fix.
> * Someone from migrating projects ought to volunteer to assist INFRA if
> needed (I volunteer).

Re: [DISCUSS] git as the primary data source

Taylor Gautier 2012-07-26, 18:31

I prefer git…

On Thu, Jul 26, 2012 at 8:40 AM, Neha Narkhede <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote:

> +1 for moving to git.
>
> Thanks,
> Neha
>
> On Thu, Jul 26, 2012 at 8:39 AM, Chris Burroughs
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > It came up in the 0.7.2 thread that with the number of parallel branches
> > git may be preferable to svn for our current and future workflow. I'd
> > like to gauge interest in possibly switching from svn to git.
> >
> > Currently INFRA can provide read/write git hosting at
> > https://git-wip-us.apache.org/. Repository list:
> > https://git-wip-us.apache.org/repos/asf To summarise there are a few
> > caveats:
> > * Support is less polished than svn, and any problems may take longer
> > to fix.
> > * Someone from migrating projects ought to volunteer to assist INFRA if
> > needed (I volunteer).
>

Re: [DISCUSS] git as the primary data source

Joel Koshy 2012-07-26, 18:43

+1 for git in general - however, the apache git mirror has been working
pretty well for me for local work/code review. So if the caveats you
mention are significant enough then maybe we should stay on svn?

Joel

On Thu, Jul 26, 2012 at 11:31 AM, Taylor Gautier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote:

> I prefer git…
>
> On Thu, Jul 26, 2012 at 8:40 AM, Neha Narkhede <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >wrote:
>
> > +1 for moving to git.
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Neha
> >
> > On Thu, Jul 26, 2012 at 8:39 AM, Chris Burroughs
> > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > It came up in the 0.7.2 thread that with the number of parallel
> branches
> > > git may be preferable to svn for our current and future workflow. I'd
> > > like to gauge interest in possibly switching from svn to git.
> > >
> > > Currently INFRA can provide read/write git hosting at
> > > https://git-wip-us.apache.org/. Repository list:
> > > https://git-wip-us.apache.org/repos/asf To summarise there are a few
> > > caveats:
> > > * Support is less polished than svn, and any problems may take longer
> > > to fix.
> > > * Someone from migrating projects ought to volunteer to assist INFRA
> if
> > > needed (I volunteer).
> >
>

Re: [DISCUSS] git as the primary data source

Jay Kreps 2012-07-26, 21:11

I am +1 as well.

-Jay

On Thu, Jul 26, 2012 at 11:43 AM, Joel Koshy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> +1 for git in general - however, the apache git mirror has been working
> pretty well for me for local work/code review. So if the caveats you
> mention are significant enough then maybe we should stay on svn?
>
> Joel
>
> On Thu, Jul 26, 2012 at 11:31 AM, Taylor Gautier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >wrote:
>
> > I prefer git…
> >
> > On Thu, Jul 26, 2012 at 8:40 AM, Neha Narkhede <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > >wrote:
> >
> > > +1 for moving to git.
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > > Neha
> > >
> > > On Thu, Jul 26, 2012 at 8:39 AM, Chris Burroughs
> > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > > It came up in the 0.7.2 thread that with the number of parallel
> > branches
> > > > git may be preferable to svn for our current and future workflow.
> I'd
> > > > like to gauge interest in possibly switching from svn to git.
> > > >
> > > > Currently INFRA can provide read/write git hosting at
> > > > https://git-wip-us.apache.org/. Repository list:
> > > > https://git-wip-us.apache.org/repos/asf To summarise there are a few
> > > > caveats:
> > > > * Support is less polished than svn, and any problems may take
> longer
> > > > to fix.
> > > > * Someone from migrating projects ought to volunteer to assist INFRA
> > if
> > > > needed (I volunteer).
> > >
> >
>

Re: [DISCUSS] git as the primary data source

Jonathan Creasy 2012-07-26, 21:35

+1

On Thu, Jul 26, 2012 at 2:11 PM, Jay Kreps <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> I am +1 as well.
>
> -Jay
>
> On Thu, Jul 26, 2012 at 11:43 AM, Joel Koshy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > +1 for git in general - however, the apache git mirror has been working
> > pretty well for me for local work/code review. So if the caveats you
> > mention are significant enough then maybe we should stay on svn?
> >
> > Joel
> >
> > On Thu, Jul 26, 2012 at 11:31 AM, Taylor Gautier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > >wrote:
> >
> > > I prefer git…
> > >
> > > On Thu, Jul 26, 2012 at 8:40 AM, Neha Narkhede <
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > >wrote:
> > >
> > > > +1 for moving to git.
> > > >
> > > > Thanks,
> > > > Neha
> > > >
> > > > On Thu, Jul 26, 2012 at 8:39 AM, Chris Burroughs
> > > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > > > It came up in the 0.7.2 thread that with the number of parallel
> > > branches
> > > > > git may be preferable to svn for our current and future workflow.
> > I'd
> > > > > like to gauge interest in possibly switching from svn to git.
> > > > >
> > > > > Currently INFRA can provide read/write git hosting at
> > > > > https://git-wip-us.apache.org/. Repository list:
> > > > > https://git-wip-us.apache.org/repos/asf To summarise there are a
> few
> > > > > caveats:
> > > > > * Support is less polished than svn, and any problems may take
> > longer
> > > > > to fix.
> > > > > * Someone from migrating projects ought to volunteer to assist
> INFRA
> > > if
> > > > > needed (I volunteer).
> > > >
> > >
> >
>

Re: [DISCUSS] git as the primary data source

Joe Stein 2012-07-28, 13:50

+1

On Thu, Jul 26, 2012 at 5:35 PM, Jonathan Creasy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> +1
>
> On Thu, Jul 26, 2012 at 2:11 PM, Jay Kreps <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > I am +1 as well.
> >
> > -Jay
> >
> > On Thu, Jul 26, 2012 at 11:43 AM, Joel Koshy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
> >
> > > +1 for git in general - however, the apache git mirror has been working
> > > pretty well for me for local work/code review. So if the caveats you
> > > mention are significant enough then maybe we should stay on svn?
> > >
> > > Joel
> > >
> > > On Thu, Jul 26, 2012 at 11:31 AM, Taylor Gautier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > >wrote:
> > >
> > > > I prefer git…
> > > >
> > > > On Thu, Jul 26, 2012 at 8:40 AM, Neha Narkhede <
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > >wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > +1 for moving to git.
> > > > >
> > > > > Thanks,
> > > > > Neha
> > > > >
> > > > > On Thu, Jul 26, 2012 at 8:39 AM, Chris Burroughs
> > > > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > > > > It came up in the 0.7.2 thread that with the number of parallel
> > > > branches
> > > > > > git may be preferable to svn for our current and future workflow.
> > > I'd
> > > > > > like to gauge interest in possibly switching from svn to git.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Currently INFRA can provide read/write git hosting at
> > > > > > https://git-wip-us.apache.org/. Repository list:
> > > > > > https://git-wip-us.apache.org/repos/asf To summarise there are a
> > few
> > > > > > caveats:
> > > > > > * Support is less polished than svn, and any problems may take
> > > longer
> > > > > > to fix.
> > > > > > * Someone from migrating projects ought to volunteer to assist
> > INFRA
> > > > if
> > > > > > needed (I volunteer).
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>

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Re: [DISCUSS] git as the primary data source

Chris Burroughs 2012-07-28, 22:49

On 07/26/2012 02:43 PM, Joel Koshy wrote:
> +1 for git in general - however, the apache git mirror has been working
> pretty well for me for local work/code review. So if the caveats you
> mention are significant enough then maybe we should stay on svn?

I think the caveats are of the "things *could* go wrong" variety, but
that current git users are happy and have not had recent problems. I
admit there isn't a good way to quantify that.

Re: [DISCUSS] git as the primary data source

Derek Chen-Becker 2012-07-30, 14:04

Just to throw in (an admittedly external) $0.02: with Git, at least, *everyone* has a full copy of the repo, +/- local changes, so even a catastrophic failure of the apache Git servers would still allow a reconstruct of the repo elsewhere (say GitHub, or a different apache server). AFAIK, this isn't possible with SVN.

Derek

On Jul 28, 2012, at 4:49 PM, Chris Burroughs wrote:

> On 07/26/2012 02:43 PM, Joel Koshy wrote:
>> +1 for git in general - however, the apache git mirror has been working
>> pretty well for me for local work/code review. So if the caveats you
>> mention are significant enough then maybe we should stay on svn?
>
> I think the caveats are of the "things *could* go wrong" variety, but
> that current git users are happy and have not had recent problems. I
> admit there isn't a good way to quantify that.

--
Derek Chen-Becker
Lead Infrastructure Engineer
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
303-752-1700

Re: [DISCUSS] git as the primary data source

Chris Burroughs 2012-07-31, 00:40

I was originally going to follow this was a [VOTE] thread, but most of
the responses are a +1 anyway. I think we can do this and it will be a
significant improvement. I'll follow up with INFRA this week.

We don't have to do this, or do it now. So if anyone does have concerns
please do speak up.

On 07/26/2012 11:39 AM, Chris Burroughs wrote:
> It came up in the 0.7.2 thread that with the number of parallel branches
> git may be preferable to svn for our current and future workflow. I'd
> like to gauge interest in possibly switching from svn to git.
>
> Currently INFRA can provide read/write git hosting at
> https://git-wip-us.apache.org/. Repository list:
> https://git-wip-us.apache.org/repos/asf To summarise there are a few
> caveats:
> * Support is less polished than svn, and any problems may take longer
> to fix.
> * Someone from migrating projects ought to volunteer to assist INFRA if
> needed (I volunteer).

Re: [DISCUSS] git as the primary data source

Jun Rao 2012-07-31, 16:08

Chris,

Thanks for following up with this. Do we lose the commit history when
moving to git? If so, maybe it's better to wait until 0.8 is released.

Jun

On Mon, Jul 30, 2012 at 5:40 PM, Chris Burroughs
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote:

> I was originally going to follow this was a [VOTE] thread, but most of
> the responses are a +1 anyway. I think we can do this and it will be a
> significant improvement. I'll follow up with INFRA this week.
>
> We don't have to do this, or do it now. So if anyone does have concerns
> please do speak up.
>
> On 07/26/2012 11:39 AM, Chris Burroughs wrote:
> > It came up in the 0.7.2 thread that with the number of parallel branches
> > git may be preferable to svn for our current and future workflow. I'd
> > like to gauge interest in possibly switching from svn to git.
> >
> > Currently INFRA can provide read/write git hosting at
> > https://git-wip-us.apache.org/. Repository list:
> > https://git-wip-us.apache.org/repos/asf To summarise there are a few
> > caveats:
> > * Support is less polished than svn, and any problems may take longer
> > to fix.
> > * Someone from migrating projects ought to volunteer to assist INFRA if
> > needed (I volunteer).
>

Re: [DISCUSS] git as the primary data source

Chris Burroughs 2012-08-02, 12:36

History is preserved, it *should* look more or less just like the
current read/only git mirrors. I'll definitely circle back here with
any other complications.

On 07/31/2012 12:08 PM, Jun Rao wrote:
> Chris,
>
> Thanks for following up with this. Do we lose the commit history when
> moving to git? If so, maybe it's better to wait until 0.8 is released.
>
> Jun
>
> On Mon, Jul 30, 2012 at 5:40 PM, Chris Burroughs
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote:
>
>> I was originally going to follow this was a [VOTE] thread, but most of
>> the responses are a +1 anyway. I think we can do this and it will be a
>> significant improvement. I'll follow up with INFRA this week.
>>
>> We don't have to do this, or do it now. So if anyone does have concerns
>> please do speak up.
>>
>> On 07/26/2012 11:39 AM, Chris Burroughs wrote:
>>> It came up in the 0.7.2 thread that with the number of parallel branches
>>> git may be preferable to svn for our current and future workflow. I'd
>>> like to gauge interest in possibly switching from svn to git.
>>>
>>> Currently INFRA can provide read/write git hosting at
>>> https://git-wip-us.apache.org/. Repository list:
>>> https://git-wip-us.apache.org/repos/asf To summarise there are a few
>>> caveats:
>>> * Support is less polished than svn, and any problems may take longer
>>> to fix.
>>> * Someone from migrating projects ought to volunteer to assist INFRA if
>>> needed (I volunteer).
>>
>

Re: [DISCUSS] git as the primary data source

Chris Burroughs 2012-08-02, 12:42

https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-5111

On 07/30/2012 08:40 PM, Chris Burroughs wrote:
> I was originally going to follow this was a [VOTE] thread, but most of
> the responses are a +1 anyway. I think we can do this and it will be a
> significant improvement. I'll follow up with INFRA this week.
>
> We don't have to do this, or do it now. So if anyone does have concerns
> please do speak up.
>
> On 07/26/2012 11:39 AM, Chris Burroughs wrote:
>> It came up in the 0.7.2 thread that with the number of parallel branches
>> git may be preferable to svn for our current and future workflow. I'd
>> like to gauge interest in possibly switching from svn to git.
>>
>> Currently INFRA can provide read/write git hosting at
>> https://git-wip-us.apache.org/. Repository list:
>> https://git-wip-us.apache.org/repos/asf To summarise there are a few
>> caveats:
>> * Support is less polished than svn, and any problems may take longer
>> to fix.
>> * Someone from migrating projects ought to volunteer to assist INFRA if
>> needed (I volunteer).