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Re: Flume Graduation (was Re: June reports in two weeks)Andrew Purtell 2012-05-24, 22:59
Mingjie Lai's affiliation should be changed to Apple.
Best regards,
- Andy (@ Trend Micro)
On May 24, 2012, at 2:56 PM, Arun C Murthy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> On May 24, 2012, at 10:40 AM, Arvind Prabhakar wrote:
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>> On Thu, May 24, 2012 at 12:19 AM, Ralph Goers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote:
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>>> The ONLY issue I see for Flume to graduate is diversity. No one will
>>> convince me that the current makeup constitutes diversity of any kind.
>>>
>> Here are the committers who have been active in the past three months:
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>> * Brock Noland (Cloudera)
>> * Hari Shreedharan (Cloudera)
>> * Jarek Jarcec Cecho (AVG Technologies)
>> * Juhani Connolly (CyberAgent)
>> * Mike Percy (Cloudera)
>> * Mingjie Lai (Trend Micro)
>> * Prasad Mujumdar (Cloudera)
>> * Will McQueen (Cloudera)
>> * Arvind Prabhakar (Cloudera)
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>> There are four companies represented in this list: AVG Technologies,
>> Cloudera, CyberAgent and Trend Micro.
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> According to that 66% of active committers are from one organization.
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> My understanding is that the diversity argument is to prevent one organization from causing the project to stall if they lost interest... see #2 in :
> http://incubator.apache.org/incubation/Incubation_Policy.html#Minimum+Graduation+Requirements
> That, potentially, helps to develop ability to tolerate and resolve conflicts (#5) without resorting to corporate structures.
>
> OTOH, graduation might actually help Flume get a more diverse community? Flume does seem to meet all other requirements...
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> So, the question is: does the project feel that there is no single company which is vital to the success of the project? If so, Flume seems ready.
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> Arun
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> PS: From my own experience: in the early days of Hadoop we were very concerned about not just #companies but also the percentage of representation and this, perversely, led to discrimination against folks from the majority contributor who were, actually, very qualified! *smile*
> And no, I'm not saying that is the right thing to do! *smile*
>
Best regards,
- Andy (@ Trend Micro)
On May 24, 2012, at 2:56 PM, Arun C Murthy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> On May 24, 2012, at 10:40 AM, Arvind Prabhakar wrote:
>
>> On Thu, May 24, 2012 at 12:19 AM, Ralph Goers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote:
>>
>>> The ONLY issue I see for Flume to graduate is diversity. No one will
>>> convince me that the current makeup constitutes diversity of any kind.
>>>
>> Here are the committers who have been active in the past three months:
>>
>> * Brock Noland (Cloudera)
>> * Hari Shreedharan (Cloudera)
>> * Jarek Jarcec Cecho (AVG Technologies)
>> * Juhani Connolly (CyberAgent)
>> * Mike Percy (Cloudera)
>> * Mingjie Lai (Trend Micro)
>> * Prasad Mujumdar (Cloudera)
>> * Will McQueen (Cloudera)
>> * Arvind Prabhakar (Cloudera)
>>
>> There are four companies represented in this list: AVG Technologies,
>> Cloudera, CyberAgent and Trend Micro.
>
> According to that 66% of active committers are from one organization.
>
> My understanding is that the diversity argument is to prevent one organization from causing the project to stall if they lost interest... see #2 in :
> http://incubator.apache.org/incubation/Incubation_Policy.html#Minimum+Graduation+Requirements
> That, potentially, helps to develop ability to tolerate and resolve conflicts (#5) without resorting to corporate structures.
>
> OTOH, graduation might actually help Flume get a more diverse community? Flume does seem to meet all other requirements...
>
> So, the question is: does the project feel that there is no single company which is vital to the success of the project? If so, Flume seems ready.
>
> Arun
>
> PS: From my own experience: in the early days of Hadoop we were very concerned about not just #companies but also the percentage of representation and this, perversely, led to discrimination against folks from the majority contributor who were, actually, very qualified! *smile*
> And no, I'm not saying that is the right thing to do! *smile*
>
