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Re: Proposal: create a separate ZooKeeper release artifact for recipes
sounds great. do you think they would broaden their scope to all of
the zk recipes rather than just their own?

ben

On Mon, Dec 5, 2011 at 11:11 AM, Patrick Hunt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Incubator is the Apache recommended way to handle this. We could be
> the sponsor, with the intent that once Curator graduates from the
> incubator we would accept it
> http://incubator.apache.org/incubation/Roles_and_Responsibilities.html#Sponsor
> anyone could join the curator effort, including existing ZK
> committers/contributors.
>
> if curator felt it should be a tlp (at time of graduation) I think
> that would be fine too.
>
> I would be happy to Champion/Mentor this effort.
>
> Patrick
>
> On Mon, Dec 5, 2011 at 11:06 AM, Ted Dunning <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> Ben,
>>
>> I think that you are right on target with this.  We need to have a wider
>> community of developers in order to have the bandwidth to handle recipes
>> and the recipes really do need separate release cycles.  Independent
>> releases should be not much of an issue given how compatible ZK versions
>> tend to be.
>>
>> On Mon, Dec 5, 2011 at 10:59 AM, Benjamin Reed <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>
>>> i also agreed that it would be great to build a community around
>>> curator especially if it could pull in other zk recipes. i've felt for
>>> a while that the core developers don't have the bandwidth to really
>>> keep track of recipe development and recipes are a very important
>>> aspect of zk. so, having a self sustaining community of developers
>>> focused on that would be awesome. being able to have a separate
>>> release cycle is also important i think. (i may be reading too much
>>> into the proposal though :)
>>>
>>> ben
>>>
>>> On Mon, Dec 5, 2011 at 7:14 AM, Flavio Junqueira <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>> wrote:
>>> > I suppose you're just trying to sense if others think that it would be a
>>> > good idea to have it as a subproject. If so, I'm in favor of putting a
>>> > proposal together, +1.
>>> >
>>> > -Flavio
>>> >
>>> > On Dec 2, 2011, at 8:45 PM, Patrick Hunt wrote:
>>> >
>>> >> Somehow this got off list, Jordan and I just noticed, summary so far:
>>> >>
>>> >> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>>> >> From: Patrick Hunt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>> >> Date: Fri, Dec 2, 2011 at 9:56 AM
>>> >> Subject: Re: Proposal: create a separate ZooKeeper release artifact for
>>> >> recipes
>>> >> To: Jordan Zimmerman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >> Did you mean to reply just to me? I think this is a great idea btw,
>>> >> just need to work out the mechanics of getting it integrated and get
>>> >> the others on board. Would it help to talk f2f?
>>> >>
>>> >> On Thu, Dec 1, 2011 at 6:20 PM, Jordan Zimmerman <
>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>> >> wrote:
>>> >>>
>>> >>> From talking to folks here (and my own feeling), I'd like to have
>>> Curator
>>> >>> get as wide use as possible. Some sort of sanction from the ZooKeeper
>>> >>> team
>>> >>> would do that. I don't see a lot of downside to getting a community
>>> >>> around
>>> >>> it either. Sure, it's nice to be the only guy I need to please, but the
>>> >>> benefits of a community outweigh that.
>>> >>>
>>> >>> I think the beauty of folding it in to ZooKeeper is that the structure
>>> is
>>> >>> already there: Jira, website, etc. I (and probably one other from
>>> >>> Netflix)
>>> >>> could take on the role of managing the Curator portion so that it
>>> doesn't
>>> >>> burden you folks. I'm doing that internally at Netflix anyway. Frankly,
>>> >>> it
>>> >>> sounds like fun (famous last words).
>>> >>>
>>> >>> -Jordan
>>> >>>
>>> >>> On 12/1/11 5:36 PM, "Patrick Hunt" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>> >>>
>>> >>>> On Thu, Dec 1, 2011 at 2:05 PM, Jordan Zimmerman
>>> >>>> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>> >>>> wrote:
>>> >>>>>
>>> >>>>> The feeling here is that it would be nice to push Curator into ZK.
>>> >>>>> However, we'd still like to contribute to it. If you don't want
>>> >>>>> separate
>>> >>>>> contributor lists, I could be a ZK contributor but explicitly only