Sujee Maniyam 2011-11-01, 17:54
Jean-Daniel Cryans 2011-11-01, 18:22
Sujee Maniyam 2011-11-01, 21:34
Jean-Daniel Cryans 2011-11-01, 21:40
Sujee Maniyam 2011-11-01, 21:46
Jean-Daniel Cryans 2011-11-01, 22:02
Nicolas Spiegelberg 2011-11-01, 22:57
lars hofhansl 2011-11-03, 02:10
Nicolas Spiegelberg 2011-11-03, 02:55
Doug Meil 2011-11-03, 13:25
-Re: region size/count per regionserver
Michel Segel 2011-11-04, 11:37
The funny thing about tuning... What works for one situation may not work well for others.
Using the old recommendation of never exceeding 1000 R per RS, keeping it low around 100-200 and monitoring tables and changing the REgion Size on a table by table basis we are doing OK.
( of course there are other nasty bugs that kill us... But that's a different thread...)
The point is that you need to decide what makes sense for you and what trade offs you can live with...
Just my two cents...
Sent from a remote device. Please excuse any typos...
On Nov 2, 2011, at 9:10 PM, lars hofhansl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Do we know what would need to change in HBase in order to be able to manage more regions per regionserver?
> With 20 regions per server, one would need 300G regions to just utilize 6T of drive space.
> To utilize a regionserver/datanode with 24T drive space the region size would be an insane 1T.
> -- Lars
> From: Nicolas Spiegelberg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Cc: Karthik Ranganathan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Kannan Muthukkaruppan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Tuesday, November 1, 2011 3:57 PM
> Subject: Re: region size/count per regionserver
> Simple answer
> 20 regions/server & <2000 regions/cluster is a good rule of thumb if you
> can't profile your workload yet. You really want to ensure that
> 1) You need to limits the regions/cluster so the master can have a
> reasonable startup time & can handle all the region state transitions via
> ZK. Most bigger companies are running 2,000 in production and achieve
> reasonable startup times (< 2 minutes for region assignment on cold
> start). If you want to test the scalability of that algorithm beyond what
> other companies need, admin beware.
> 2) The more regions/server you have, the faster that recovery can happen
> after RS death because you can currently parallelize recovery on a
> region-granularity. Too many regions/server and #1 starts to be a problem.
> Complicated answer
> More information is optimize this formula. Additional considerations:
> 1) Are you IO-bound or CPU-bound
> 2) What is your grid topology like
> 3) What is your network hardware like
> 4) How many disks (not just size)
> 5) What is the data locality between RegionServer & DataNode
> In the Facebook case, we have 5 racks with 20 nodes each. Servers in the
> rack are connected by 1G Eth to a switch with a 10G uplink. We are
> network bound. Our saturation point is mostly commonly on the top-of-rack
> switch. With 20 regions/server, we can roughly parallelize our
> distributed log splitting within a single rack on RS death (although 2
> regions do split off-rack). This minimizes top-of-rack traffic and
> optimized our recovery time. Even if you are CPU-bound, log splitting
> (hence recovery time) is an IO-bound operation. A lot of our work on
> region assignment is about maximizing data locality, even on RS death, so
> we avoid top-of-rack saturation.
> On 11/1/11 10:54 AM, "Sujee Maniyam" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> HI all,
>> My HBase cluster is 10 nodes, each node has 12core , 48G RAM, 24TB disk,
>> My region size is 1GB.
>> Any guidelines on how many regions can a RS handle comfortably?
>> I vaguely remember reading some where to have no more than 1000 regions /
>> server; that comes to 1TB / server. Seems pretty low for the current
>> hardware config.
>> Any rules of thumb? experiences?
Mikael Sitruk 2011-11-04, 12:32
Sujee Maniyam 2011-11-03, 18:32