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Jay Kreps 2013-06-28, 00:40
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Jay Kreps 2013-07-01, 16:42
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Jay Kreps 2013-07-01, 19:04
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Re: site updates
On the main page http://kafka.apache.org/<http://kafka.apache.org/design.html>,
is the introduction/quickstart/design reflecting 0.8?
On Mon, Jul 1, 2013 at 3:04 PM, Jay Kreps <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> 1. I think it is fine to do a one-off since it won't impact the APIs. It
> would be *awesome* to get this working.
> 2. Let's sync up since I think we may be both working on the same page.
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> -Jay
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> On Mon, Jul 1, 2013 at 9:50 AM, Sriram Subramanian <
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> > Also,
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> > 1. I am trying to get the api stuff working but it is little but of work.
> > I need to make Kafka compile with Scala 2.10 first.
> > 2. I have started a design page for kafka replication. The idea is that
> it
> > goes as a separate section under the current design page. I will update
> > the page today and we can continue editing it. Sounds good?
> >
> > On 7/1/13 9:42 AM, "Jay Kreps" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > >Yeah thanks for the feedback, that's helpful. Here was my thinking:
> > >1. I think it just makes sense to have one design and implementation
> page
> > >which describe the most recent release and live at the top level. You
> > >could
> > >imagine wanting to read older design pages but that seems a bit unlikely
> > >mostly, and it will be really duplicative since the design generally
> won't
> > >change a ton, so I think it is just confusing. Currently the design and
> > >implementation page only cover 0.7 but that's just because I haven't
> > >gotten
> > >there yet--I hope to get to them in the next week.
> > >2. Oops that's a typo will fix. I wanted to kind of walk people through
> > >things step by step. I like to do tutorials like that where you just
> kind
> > >of cut and paste commands and watch what happens, that was the rationale
> > >for repeating the command.
> > >3. I guess I felt that although we do document that tool, migration is
> > >important and a person interested in 0.8 would be more likely to look
> > >under
> > >"migration" than tools. I like the idea of having a tools page but right
> > >now it is very incomplete as it doesn't cover most of the tools. Anyhow
> I
> > >thought migration was important enough to get its own link.
> > >4. I agree. The old link structure was insane though as all the menus
> > >disappeared when you clicked on a link and we had cut and pasted all the
> > >shared files into the release dirs. Here was my plan. For now I think
> 0.7
> > >is the only stable release and 0.8 is beta so it makes sense to have
> them
> > >both though that does take up a lot of space. When we think 0.7 is no
> > >longer relevant I will make an expandable nav with the title "older
> > >releases" and shove that in there so when you click "older releases" it
> > >will unhide all the old releases (which at first will just be 0.7). That
> > >way we don't keep taking up space.
> > >
> > >I was going to put another day of work into the docs. My plan was to
> add a
> > >"use cases" page that covers the basics of tracking, messaging, etc, and
> > >update the design page. If anyone else has ideas for other improvements
> > >let
> > >me know?
> > >
> > >Question: do you have any feedback on the intro page? The goal of that
> was
> > >to be something someone who just wants the basics of what Kafka is to
> > >read.
> > >It is a bit hard to write something like this because you have to put
> > >yourself in the shoes of someone totally new to Kafka and potentially
> new
> > >to messaging and log aggregation and still explain things coherently.
> > >Previously the only explanatory thing we had was the design page which
> was
> > >extremely detailed so pulling out the essentials hopefully gives a kind
> of
> > >executive summary.
> > >
> > >-Jay
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >On Sun, Jun 30, 2013 at 3:32 PM, Jun Rao <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > >
> > >> Thanks for cleaning up the site. Overall, it looks cleaner. A few
> > >>comments:
> > >>
> > >> 1. implementation: This is mostly about the 0.7 implementation. So it

 
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Jay Kreps 2013-07-02, 19:39
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