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Re: [VOTE] - Release 2.0.5-beta

On May 15, 2013, at 3:27 PM, Chris Douglas wrote:

> +1 (binding) on the proposal.
> However, the value we get from these "release plan" votes is dubious,
> to put it mildly. The surrounding discussion has cost more than it is
> worth, and votes on executive summaries of releases discourage the
> sort of detailed collaboration we're trying to create. It replaces
> development with zero-sum struggles over abstractions.

Agree, I propose we edit bylaws to do away with them for the future.
> This is, in effect, another poll about the direction we're taking 2.x.
> If we can't reach consensus on development directions without voting,
> that's more evidence that the project should be split, IMO. -C



> On Wed, May 15, 2013 at 2:21 PM, Steve Loughran <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> On 15 May 2013 10:57, Arun C Murthy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>> Folks,
>>> A considerable number of people have expressed confusion regarding the
>>> recent vote on 2.0.5, beta status etc. given lack of specifics, the voting
>>> itself (validity of the vote itself, whose votes are binding) etc.
>>> IMHO technical arguments (incompatibility b/w 2.0 & 2.1, current stability
>>> of 3 features under debate etc.) have been lost in the discussion in favor
>>> of non-technical (almost dramatic) nuances such as "seizing the moment".
>>> There is now dangerous talk of tolerating incompatibility b/w 2.0 and 2.1)
>>> - this is a red flag for me; particularly when there are just 3 features
>>> being debated and active committers and contributors are confident of and
>>> ready to stand by their work. All patches, I believe, are ready to be
>>> merged in the the next few days per discussions on jira. This will,
>>> clearly, not delay the other API work which everyone agrees is crucial. As
>>> a result, I feel no recourse but to restart a new vote - all attempts at
>>> calm, reasoned, civil discussion based on technical arguments have come to
>>> naught - I apologize for the thrash caused to everyone's attention.
>>> To get past all of this confusion, I'd like to present an alternate,
>>> specific proposal for consideration.
>>> I propose we continue the original plan and make a 2.0.5-beta release by
>>> May end with the following content:
>>> # HDFS-347
>>> # HDFS Snapshots
>>> # Windows support
>>> # Necessary & final API/protocol changes such as:
>>> * Final YARN API changes: YARN-386
>>> * MR Binary Compatibility: MAPREDUCE-5108
>>> * Final RPC cleanup: HADOOP-8990
>>> People working on the above features have all expressed considerable
>>> comfort with them and are ready to stand-by to help expedite any necessary
>>> bug-fixes etc. to get to stabilization quickly. I'm confident we can get
>>> this release out by end of May. This sets stage for a hadoop-2.x GA release
>>> right after with some more testing - this means I think I can quickly turn
>>> around and make bug-fix releases as necessary right after 2.0.5-beta.
>>> I request that people consider helping out with this plan and sign up to
>>> help push hadoop-2.x to stability as outlined above. I believe this will
>>> help achieve our shared goals of quickly stabilizing hadoop-2 and help
>>> ensure we can support it for forseeable future in a compatible manner for
>>> the benefit of our users and downstream projects.
>>> Please vote, the vote will run the normal 7 days. Obviously, I'm +1.
>> +1 (binding)

Arun C. Murthy
Hortonworks Inc.