Does anyone have access to the content that was posted a while back to hbaseblog.com? I'd like to recover it and put it up on the wiki. 

I'm also checking to see if we saved something internally...
 
Best regards,
   - Andy

Problems worthy of attack prove their worth by hitting back. - Piet Hein (via Tom White)

Hi Andy,

Would something like this work?

http://web.archive.org/web/20110207202749/http://hbaseblog.com/

Cheers,
Lars

On Dec 13, 2011, at 4:59 PM, Andrew Purtell wrote:

> Does anyone have access to the content that was posted a while back to hbaseblog.com? I'd like to recover it and put it up on the wiki.
>
> I'm also checking to see if we saved something internally...
>  
> Best regards,
>
>
>    - Andy
>
> Problems worthy of attack prove their worth by hitting back. - Piet Hein (via Tom White)

Thanks Lars, that got back some useful content but sadly not Mingjie's post. Oh well.

Best regards,
   - Andy

Problems worthy of attack prove their worth by hitting back. - Piet Hein (via Tom White)
----- Original Message -----
> From: Lars George <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Andrew Purtell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Cc:
> Sent: Tuesday, December 13, 2011 11:24 AM
> Subject: Re: hbaseblog content
>
> Hi Andy,
>
> Would something like this work?
>
> http://web.archive.org/web/20110207202749/http://hbaseblog.com/
>
> Cheers,
> Lars
>
> On Dec 13, 2011, at 4:59 PM, Andrew Purtell wrote:
>
>>  Does anyone have access to the content that was posted a while back to
> hbaseblog.com? I'd like to recover it and put it up on the wiki.
>>
>>  I'm also checking to see if we saved something internally...
>>  
>>  Best regards,
>>
>>
>>     - Andy
>>
>>  Problems worthy of attack prove their worth by hitting back. - Piet Hein
> (via Tom White)
>

Jon said he would get the blog back up, maybe he also has the data?
I'll try to get him to look at his emails.

J-D

On Tue, Dec 13, 2011 at 11:37 AM, Andrew Purtell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Thanks Lars, that got back some useful content but sadly not Mingjie's post. Oh well.
>
> Best regards,
>
>
>    - Andy
>
> Problems worthy of attack prove their worth by hitting back. - Piet Hein (via Tom White)
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: Lars George <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Andrew Purtell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> Cc:
>> Sent: Tuesday, December 13, 2011 11:24 AM
>> Subject: Re: hbaseblog content
>>
>> Hi Andy,
>>
>> Would something like this work?
>>
>> http://web.archive.org/web/20110207202749/http://hbaseblog.com/
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Lars
>>
>> On Dec 13, 2011, at 4:59 PM, Andrew Purtell wrote:
>>
>>>  Does anyone have access to the content that was posted a while back to
>> hbaseblog.com? I'd like to recover it and put it up on the wiki.
>>>
>>>  I'm also checking to see if we saved something internally...
>>>
>>>  Best regards,
>>>
>>>
>>>     - Andy
>>>
>>>  Problems worthy of attack prove their worth by hitting back. - Piet Hein
>> (via Tom White)
>>

The data is on a server being held hostage at a data center in Los
Angeles.  I need to pay off my balance with them so I can get it back.
 Oops.

So, I will eventually be able to get the data back.  I have other data
I need to recover off that server so will definitely get the server
back in the next month or so.

JG

On Tue, Dec 13, 2011 at 11:39 AM, Jean-Daniel Cryans
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Jon said he would get the blog back up, maybe he also has the data?
> I'll try to get him to look at his emails.
>
> J-D
>
> On Tue, Dec 13, 2011 at 11:37 AM, Andrew Purtell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> Thanks Lars, that got back some useful content but sadly not Mingjie's post. Oh well.
>>
>> Best regards,
>>
>>
>>    - Andy
>>
>> Problems worthy of attack prove their worth by hitting back. - Piet Hein (via Tom White)
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: Lars George <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Andrew Purtell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>> Cc:
>>> Sent: Tuesday, December 13, 2011 11:24 AM
>>> Subject: Re: hbaseblog content
>>>
>>> Hi Andy,
>>>
>>> Would something like this work?
>>>
>>> http://web.archive.org/web/20110207202749/http://hbaseblog.com/
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>> Lars
>>>
>>> On Dec 13, 2011, at 4:59 PM, Andrew Purtell wrote:
>>>
>>>>  Does anyone have access to the content that was posted a while back to
>>> hbaseblog.com? I'd like to recover it and put it up on the wiki.
>>>>
>>>>  I'm also checking to see if we saved something internally...
>>>>
>>>>  Best regards,
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>     - Andy
>>>>
>>>>  Problems worthy of attack prove their worth by hitting back. - Piet Hein
>>> (via Tom White)
>>>

Has a blog hosted at blogs.apache.org been considered  for HBase?  Each
projects can have its own blog hosted there and we don't have to worry
about this particular situation in the future.  The original domain could
forward to it...

Here are some for project's I've been involved with before.

http://blogs.apache.org/flume/
http://blogs.apache.org/sqoop/

Jon.

On Tue, Dec 13, 2011 at 12:44 PM, Jonathan Gray <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> The data is on a server being held hostage at a data center in Los
> Angeles.  I need to pay off my balance with them so I can get it back.
>  Oops.
>
> So, I will eventually be able to get the data back.  I have other data
> I need to recover off that server so will definitely get the server
> back in the next month or so.
>
> JG
>
> On Tue, Dec 13, 2011 at 11:39 AM, Jean-Daniel Cryans
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Jon said he would get the blog back up, maybe he also has the data?
> > I'll try to get him to look at his emails.
> >
> > J-D
> >
> > On Tue, Dec 13, 2011 at 11:37 AM, Andrew Purtell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
> >> Thanks Lars, that got back some useful content but sadly not Mingjie's
> post. Oh well.
> >>
> >> Best regards,
> >>
> >>
> >>    - Andy
> >>
> >> Problems worthy of attack prove their worth by hitting back. - Piet
> Hein (via Tom White)
> >>
> >>
> >> ----- Original Message -----
> >>> From: Lars George <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >>> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Andrew Purtell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >>> Cc:
> >>> Sent: Tuesday, December 13, 2011 11:24 AM
> >>> Subject: Re: hbaseblog content
> >>>
> >>> Hi Andy,
> >>>
> >>> Would something like this work?
> >>>
> >>> http://web.archive.org/web/20110207202749/http://hbaseblog.com/
> >>>
> >>> Cheers,
> >>> Lars
> >>>
> >>> On Dec 13, 2011, at 4:59 PM, Andrew Purtell wrote:
> >>>
> >>>>  Does anyone have access to the content that was posted a while back
> to
> >>> hbaseblog.com? I'd like to recover it and put it up on the wiki.
> >>>>
> >>>>  I'm also checking to see if we saved something internally...
> >>>>
> >>>>  Best regards,
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>     - Andy
> >>>>
> >>>>  Problems worthy of attack prove their worth by hitting back. - Piet
> Hein
> >>> (via Tom White)
> >>>
>

--
// Jonathan Hsieh (shay)
// Software Engineer, Cloudera
// [EMAIL PROTECTED]

On Tue, Dec 13, 2011 at 1:31 PM, Jonathan Hsieh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Has a blog hosted at blogs.apache.org been considered  for HBase?  Each
> projects can have its own blog hosted there and we don't have to worry
> about this particular situation in the future.  The original domain could
> forward to it...
>
> Here are some for project's I've been involved with before.
>
> http://blogs.apache.org/flume/
> http://blogs.apache.org/sqoop/
>

I like this suggestion Jon.  Soon as someone writes something, I'll
set blog.hbase.org to point here.
St.Ack

Once I get off my ass I'll finish up the blog post about the SlabCache soon.

On Tue, Dec 13, 2011 at 4:48 PM, Stack <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Tue, Dec 13, 2011 at 1:31 PM, Jonathan Hsieh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> Has a blog hosted at blogs.apache.org been considered  for HBase?  Each
>> projects can have its own blog hosted there and we don't have to worry
>> about this particular situation in the future.  The original domain could
>> forward to it...
>>
>> Here are some for project's I've been involved with before.
>>
>> http://blogs.apache.org/flume/
>> http://blogs.apache.org/sqoop/
>>
>
> I like this suggestion Jon.  Soon as someone writes something, I'll
> set blog.hbase.org to point here.
> St.Ack

One of the project committers just needs to file an INFRA jira and a list of folks that have rights to it.

Sent from my iPhone

On Dec 13, 2011, at 16:48, Stack <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> On Tue, Dec 13, 2011 at 1:31 PM, Jonathan Hsieh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> Has a blog hosted at blogs.apache.org been considered  for HBase?  Each
>> projects can have its own blog hosted there and we don't have to worry
>> about this particular situation in the future.  The original domain could
>> forward to it...
>>
>> Here are some for project's I've been involved with before.
>>
>> http://blogs.apache.org/flume/
>> http://blogs.apache.org/sqoop/
>>
>
> I like this suggestion Jon.  Soon as someone writes something, I'll
> set blog.hbase.org to point here.
> St.Ack

Thanks Jon.
 
Best regards,
   - Andy

Problems worthy of attack prove their worth by hitting back. - Piet Hein (via Tom White)
----- Original Message -----
> From: Jonathan Gray <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Cc: Andrew Purtell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Tuesday, December 13, 2011 12:44 PM
> Subject: Re: hbaseblog content
>
> The data is on a server being held hostage at a data center in Los
> Angeles.  I need to pay off my balance with them so I can get it back.
> Oops.
>
> So, I will eventually be able to get the data back.  I have other data
> I need to recover off that server so will definitely get the server
> back in the next month or so.
>
> JG
>
> On Tue, Dec 13, 2011 at 11:39 AM, Jean-Daniel Cryans
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>  Jon said he would get the blog back up, maybe he also has the data?
>>  I'll try to get him to look at his emails.
>>
>>  J-D
>>
>>  On Tue, Dec 13, 2011 at 11:37 AM, Andrew Purtell
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>>  Thanks Lars, that got back some useful content but sadly not
> Mingjie's post. Oh well.
>>>
>>>  Best regards,
>>>
>>>
>>>     - Andy
>>>
>>>  Problems worthy of attack prove their worth by hitting back. - Piet
> Hein (via Tom White)
>>>
>>>
>>>  ----- Original Message -----
>>>>  From: Lars George <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>>>  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Andrew Purtell
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>>>  Cc:
>>>>  Sent: Tuesday, December 13, 2011 11:24 AM
>>>>  Subject: Re: hbaseblog content
>>>>
>>>>  Hi Andy,
>>>>
>>>>  Would something like this work?
>>>>
>>>>  http://web.archive.org/web/20110207202749/http://hbaseblog.com/
>>>>
>>>>  Cheers,
>>>>  Lars
>>>>
>>>>  On Dec 13, 2011, at 4:59 PM, Andrew Purtell wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>   Does anyone have access to the content that was posted a while
> back to
>>>>  hbaseblog.com? I'd like to recover it and put it up on the
> wiki.
>>>>>
>>>>>   I'm also checking to see if we saved something
> internally...
>>>>>
>>>>>   Best regards,
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>      - Andy
>>>>>
>>>>>   Problems worthy of attack prove their worth by hitting back. -
> Piet Hein
>>>>  (via Tom White)
>>>>
>

Hi all

I also saw the hbaseblog.com  referenced in JIRA, especially when I was
looking for coprocessor documentation/design and was unable to find
something.
So first is there an "official" place to get coprocessor documentation
(design, usage)?

Generally (and please do not understand me wrong - I'm not criticizing
anyone) shouldn't development document, architecture design be in the
wiki/official hbase site instead of pointers to external blog, or in JIRA?
(Of course the Hbase book tries to answer this at some extends, but it is
only for official release not under development ones. Second this is a
reference guide and not a developer guide.)

Last, don't you think that there should be different documentation pages
for different version of HBase, like it is done for hadoop, or pig?

Regards,
Mikael.S

On Wed, Dec 14, 2011 at 11:36 PM, Andrew Purtell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote:

> Thanks Jon.
>
> Best regards,
>
>
>    - Andy
>
> Problems worthy of attack prove their worth by hitting back. - Piet Hein
> (via Tom White)
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> > From: Jonathan Gray <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Cc: Andrew Purtell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Sent: Tuesday, December 13, 2011 12:44 PM
> > Subject: Re: hbaseblog content
> >
> > The data is on a server being held hostage at a data center in Los
> > Angeles.  I need to pay off my balance with them so I can get it back.
> > Oops.
> >
> > So, I will eventually be able to get the data back.  I have other data
> > I need to recover off that server so will definitely get the server
> > back in the next month or so.
> >
> > JG
> >
> > On Tue, Dec 13, 2011 at 11:39 AM, Jean-Daniel Cryans
> > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >>  Jon said he would get the blog back up, maybe he also has the data?
> >>  I'll try to get him to look at his emails.
> >>
> >>  J-D
> >>
> >>  On Tue, Dec 13, 2011 at 11:37 AM, Andrew Purtell
> > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >>>  Thanks Lars, that got back some useful content but sadly not
> > Mingjie's post. Oh well.
> >>>
> >>>  Best regards,
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>     - Andy
> >>>
> >>>  Problems worthy of attack prove their worth by hitting back. - Piet
> > Hein (via Tom White)
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>  ----- Original Message -----
> >>>>  From: Lars George <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >>>>  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Andrew Purtell
> > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >>>>  Cc:
> >>>>  Sent: Tuesday, December 13, 2011 11:24 AM
> >>>>  Subject: Re: hbaseblog content
> >>>>
> >>>>  Hi Andy,
> >>>>
> >>>>  Would something like this work?
> >>>>
> >>>>  http://web.archive.org/web/20110207202749/http://hbaseblog.com/
> >>>>
> >>>>  Cheers,
> >>>>  Lars
> >>>>
> >>>>  On Dec 13, 2011, at 4:59 PM, Andrew Purtell wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>>   Does anyone have access to the content that was posted a while
> > back to
> >>>>  hbaseblog.com? I'd like to recover it and put it up on the
> > wiki.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>   I'm also checking to see if we saved something
> > internally...
> >>>>>
> >>>>>   Best regards,
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>      - Andy
> >>>>>
> >>>>>   Problems worthy of attack prove their worth by hitting back. -
> > Piet Hein
> >>>>  (via Tom White)
> >>>>
> >
>

--
Mikael.S

On Sun, Dec 25, 2011 at 2:29 AM, Mikael Sitruk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I also saw the hbaseblog.com  referenced in JIRA, especially when I was
> looking for coprocessor documentation/design and was unable to find
> something.
> So first is there an "official" place to get coprocessor documentation
> (design, usage)?
>

The 'design' is up in the JIRAs.

The high-level overview and some usage was up on hbaseblog (Mingjie,
do you have the original content?  Perhaps we could rehydrate your
articles as content in hbase book?)

> Generally (and please do not understand me wrong - I'm not criticizing
> anyone)

We ain't so sensitive that you need to preface your remarks so Mikael (smile).

>  shouldn't development document, architecture design be in the
> wiki/official hbase site instead of pointers to external blog, or in JIRA?

Yes.

IIRC, it was done as wiki article before it was committed to code-base.

> Last, don't you think that there should be different documentation pages
> for different version of HBase, like it is done for hadoop, or pig?
>

Again yes.  There is version documentation that ships with each hbase
release and then there is keeping these versions up on the website.
Its the latter to which I believe you refer.

We used do this keeping all versions of api doc up on the website.
After the switch to maven where we started to use it to generate our
site, we got lazy about keeping up old versions; rare did we change
major versions so it mattered little.  Around the same time as our
switch to maven, we moved to use docbook instead of xdoc+wiki keeping
up our documentation.  We've been busy back-filling out the reference
guide -- well, Doug has mostly -- with explanation and for the most
part its been non-version specific, or rather its all been about
version 0.90.x HBase, but that is starting to change now that 0.92.0
is looming.  For 0.92.x specifics we've been adding 'since version
X.X.X' above the sections that are 0.92.x particular.  This will start
to breakdown as the versions diverge.

We'll do a better job going forward.

St.Ack
St.Ack

I found the 'text' for Mingjie's CP blog here:
http://blog.csdn.net/macyang/article/details/6425628.  We should wrap
this into the manual before it disappears.  The Internet Archive has
the hbaseblog.com homepage and a few of the articles we had posted
there: http://web.archive.org/web/20110207202749/http://hbaseblog.com/
(but not CP article of course but we should roll in Gary's article on
Security too?).

St.Ack
On Mon, Dec 26, 2011 at 3:52 PM, Stack <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Sun, Dec 25, 2011 at 2:29 AM, Mikael Sitruk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> I also saw the hbaseblog.com  referenced in JIRA, especially when I was
>> looking for coprocessor documentation/design and was unable to find
>> something.
>> So first is there an "official" place to get coprocessor documentation
>> (design, usage)?
>>
>
> The 'design' is up in the JIRAs.
>
> The high-level overview and some usage was up on hbaseblog (Mingjie,
> do you have the original content?  Perhaps we could rehydrate your
> articles as content in hbase book?)
>
>> Generally (and please do not understand me wrong - I'm not criticizing
>> anyone)
>
> We ain't so sensitive that you need to preface your remarks so Mikael (smile).
>
>>  shouldn't development document, architecture design be in the
>> wiki/official hbase site instead of pointers to external blog, or in JIRA?
>
> Yes.
>
> IIRC, it was done as wiki article before it was committed to code-base.
>
>> Last, don't you think that there should be different documentation pages
>> for different version of HBase, like it is done for hadoop, or pig?
>>
>
> Again yes.  There is version documentation that ships with each hbase
> release and then there is keeping these versions up on the website.
> Its the latter to which I believe you refer.
>
> We used do this keeping all versions of api doc up on the website.
> After the switch to maven where we started to use it to generate our
> site, we got lazy about keeping up old versions; rare did we change
> major versions so it mattered little.  Around the same time as our
> switch to maven, we moved to use docbook instead of xdoc+wiki keeping
> up our documentation.  We've been busy back-filling out the reference
> guide -- well, Doug has mostly -- with explanation and for the most
> part its been non-version specific, or rather its all been about
> version 0.90.x HBase, but that is starting to change now that 0.92.0
> is looming.  For 0.92.x specifics we've been adding 'since version
> X.X.X' above the sections that are 0.92.x particular.  This will start
> to breakdown as the versions diverge.
>
> We'll do a better job going forward.
>
> St.Ack
> St.Ack

Thanks for the  http://blog.csdn.net/macyang/article/details/6425628
pointer. Regarding the JIRA, I presume that the old reference for the
hbaseblog will be changed by some updated location/content.
I have also checked the 0.92 documentation from a link you previously
posted  http://people.apache.org/~stack/hbase-0.92.0-candidate-2/, beside
few properties of co-processor I don't see any documentation on this
feature, is it intended? I mean the HFile V2 is quite documented, should it
be the same for major HBase feature/functionality?

BTW for getting an in development version build, should I searching the
mailing list (you posted such email few days ago from which i took the link
above)? Don't you intend to have in the download area of the site a
directory for RC version? Is there another way?

Thanks
Mikael.S

On Tue, Dec 27, 2011 at 7:07 AM, Stack <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> I found the 'text' for Mingjie's CP blog here:
> http://blog.csdn.net/macyang/article/details/6425628.  We should wrap
> this into the manual before it disappears.  The Internet Archive has
> the hbaseblog.com homepage and a few of the articles we had posted
> there: http://web.archive.org/web/20110207202749/http://hbaseblog.com/
> (but not CP article of course but we should roll in Gary's article on
> Security too?).
>
> St.Ack
>
>
> On Mon, Dec 26, 2011 at 3:52 PM, Stack <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > On Sun, Dec 25, 2011 at 2:29 AM, Mikael Sitruk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
> >> I also saw the hbaseblog.com  referenced in JIRA, especially when I was
> >> looking for coprocessor documentation/design and was unable to find
> >> something.
> >> So first is there an "official" place to get coprocessor documentation
> >> (design, usage)?
> >>
> >
> > The 'design' is up in the JIRAs.
> >
> > The high-level overview and some usage was up on hbaseblog (Mingjie,
> > do you have the original content?  Perhaps we could rehydrate your
> > articles as content in hbase book?)
> >
> >> Generally (and please do not understand me wrong - I'm not criticizing
> >> anyone)
> >
> > We ain't so sensitive that you need to preface your remarks so Mikael
> (smile).
> >
> >>  shouldn't development document, architecture design be in the
> >> wiki/official hbase site instead of pointers to external blog, or in
> JIRA?
> >
> > Yes.
> >
> > IIRC, it was done as wiki article before it was committed to code-base.
> >
> >> Last, don't you think that there should be different documentation pages
> >> for different version of HBase, like it is done for hadoop, or pig?
> >>
> >
> > Again yes.  There is version documentation that ships with each hbase
> > release and then there is keeping these versions up on the website.
> > Its the latter to which I believe you refer.
> >
> > We used do this keeping all versions of api doc up on the website.
> > After the switch to maven where we started to use it to generate our
> > site, we got lazy about keeping up old versions; rare did we change
> > major versions so it mattered little.  Around the same time as our
> > switch to maven, we moved to use docbook instead of xdoc+wiki keeping
> > up our documentation.  We've been busy back-filling out the reference
> > guide -- well, Doug has mostly -- with explanation and for the most
> > part its been non-version specific, or rather its all been about
> > version 0.90.x HBase, but that is starting to change now that 0.92.0
> > is looming.  For 0.92.x specifics we've been adding 'since version
> > X.X.X' above the sections that are 0.92.x particular.  This will start
> > to breakdown as the versions diverge.
> >
> > We'll do a better job going forward.
> >
> > St.Ack
> > St.Ack
>

--
Mikael.S

I have a JIRA open with a patch on it that is a start here. https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/HBASE-4990 . Will continue to update the site docs (book.xml) over time until the result is satisfactory.

Best regards,

    - Andy
On Dec 27, 2011, at 4:04 AM, Mikael Sitruk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Thanks for the  http://blog.csdn.net/macyang/article/details/6425628
> pointer. Regarding the JIRA, I presume that the old reference for the
> hbaseblog will be changed by some updated location/content.
> I have also checked the 0.92 documentation from a link you previously
> posted  http://people.apache.org/~stack/hbase-0.92.0-candidate-2/, beside
> few properties of co-processor I don't see any documentation on this
> feature, is it intended? I mean the HFile V2 is quite documented, should it
> be the same for major HBase feature/functionality?
>
> BTW for getting an in development version build, should I searching the
> mailing list (you posted such email few days ago from which i took the link
> above)? Don't you intend to have in the download area of the site a
> directory for RC version? Is there another way?
>
> Thanks
> Mikael.S
>
> On Tue, Dec 27, 2011 at 7:07 AM, Stack <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>> I found the 'text' for Mingjie's CP blog here:
>> http://blog.csdn.net/macyang/article/details/6425628.  We should wrap
>> this into the manual before it disappears.  The Internet Archive has
>> the hbaseblog.com homepage and a few of the articles we had posted
>> there: http://web.archive.org/web/20110207202749/http://hbaseblog.com/
>> (but not CP article of course but we should roll in Gary's article on
>> Security too?).
>>
>> St.Ack
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Dec 26, 2011 at 3:52 PM, Stack <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>> On Sun, Dec 25, 2011 at 2:29 AM, Mikael Sitruk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> wrote:
>>>> I also saw the hbaseblog.com  referenced in JIRA, especially when I was
>>>> looking for coprocessor documentation/design and was unable to find
>>>> something.
>>>> So first is there an "official" place to get coprocessor documentation
>>>> (design, usage)?
>>>>
>>>
>>> The 'design' is up in the JIRAs.
>>>
>>> The high-level overview and some usage was up on hbaseblog (Mingjie,
>>> do you have the original content?  Perhaps we could rehydrate your
>>> articles as content in hbase book?)
>>>
>>>> Generally (and please do not understand me wrong - I'm not criticizing
>>>> anyone)
>>>
>>> We ain't so sensitive that you need to preface your remarks so Mikael
>> (smile).
>>>
>>>> shouldn't development document, architecture design be in the
>>>> wiki/official hbase site instead of pointers to external blog, or in
>> JIRA?
>>>
>>> Yes.
>>>
>>> IIRC, it was done as wiki article before it was committed to code-base.
>>>
>>>> Last, don't you think that there should be different documentation pages
>>>> for different version of HBase, like it is done for hadoop, or pig?
>>>>
>>>
>>> Again yes.  There is version documentation that ships with each hbase
>>> release and then there is keeping these versions up on the website.
>>> Its the latter to which I believe you refer.
>>>
>>> We used do this keeping all versions of api doc up on the website.
>>> After the switch to maven where we started to use it to generate our
>>> site, we got lazy about keeping up old versions; rare did we change
>>> major versions so it mattered little.  Around the same time as our
>>> switch to maven, we moved to use docbook instead of xdoc+wiki keeping
>>> up our documentation.  We've been busy back-filling out the reference
>>> guide -- well, Doug has mostly -- with explanation and for the most
>>> part its been non-version specific, or rather its all been about
>>> version 0.90.x HBase, but that is starting to change now that 0.92.0
>>> is looming.  For 0.92.x specifics we've been adding 'since version
>>> X.X.X' above the sections that are 0.92.x particular.  This will start
>>> to breakdown as the versions diverge.
>>>
>>> We'll do a better job going forward.

Yes that is for security but coprocessors need documentation too. Blog posting isn't going to cut it.
On Dec 27, 2011, at 11:27 AM, Andrew Purtell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> I have a JIRA open with a patch on it that is a start here. https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/HBASE-4990 . Will continue to update the site docs (book.xml) over time until the result is satisfactory.
>
> Best regards,
>
>   - Andy
>
>
> On Dec 27, 2011, at 4:04 AM, Mikael Sitruk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>> Thanks for the  http://blog.csdn.net/macyang/article/details/6425628
>> pointer. Regarding the JIRA, I presume that the old reference for the
>> hbaseblog will be changed by some updated location/content.
>> I have also checked the 0.92 documentation from a link you previously
>> posted  http://people.apache.org/~stack/hbase-0.92.0-candidate-2/, beside
>> few properties of co-processor I don't see any documentation on this
>> feature, is it intended? I mean the HFile V2 is quite documented, should it
>> be the same for major HBase feature/functionality?
>>
>> BTW for getting an in development version build, should I searching the
>> mailing list (you posted such email few days ago from which i took the link
>> above)? Don't you intend to have in the download area of the site a
>> directory for RC version? Is there another way?
>>
>> Thanks
>> Mikael.S
>>
>> On Tue, Dec 27, 2011 at 7:07 AM, Stack <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>
>>> I found the 'text' for Mingjie's CP blog here:
>>> http://blog.csdn.net/macyang/article/details/6425628.  We should wrap
>>> this into the manual before it disappears.  The Internet Archive has
>>> the hbaseblog.com homepage and a few of the articles we had posted
>>> there: http://web.archive.org/web/20110207202749/http://hbaseblog.com/
>>> (but not CP article of course but we should roll in Gary's article on
>>> Security too?).
>>>
>>> St.Ack
>>>
>>>
>>> On Mon, Dec 26, 2011 at 3:52 PM, Stack <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>>> On Sun, Dec 25, 2011 at 2:29 AM, Mikael Sitruk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>> wrote:
>>>>> I also saw the hbaseblog.com  referenced in JIRA, especially when I was
>>>>> looking for coprocessor documentation/design and was unable to find
>>>>> something.
>>>>> So first is there an "official" place to get coprocessor documentation
>>>>> (design, usage)?
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> The 'design' is up in the JIRAs.
>>>>
>>>> The high-level overview and some usage was up on hbaseblog (Mingjie,
>>>> do you have the original content?  Perhaps we could rehydrate your
>>>> articles as content in hbase book?)
>>>>
>>>>> Generally (and please do not understand me wrong - I'm not criticizing
>>>>> anyone)
>>>>
>>>> We ain't so sensitive that you need to preface your remarks so Mikael
>>> (smile).
>>>>
>>>>> shouldn't development document, architecture design be in the
>>>>> wiki/official hbase site instead of pointers to external blog, or in
>>> JIRA?
>>>>
>>>> Yes.
>>>>
>>>> IIRC, it was done as wiki article before it was committed to code-base.
>>>>
>>>>> Last, don't you think that there should be different documentation pages
>>>>> for different version of HBase, like it is done for hadoop, or pig?
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Again yes.  There is version documentation that ships with each hbase
>>>> release and then there is keeping these versions up on the website.
>>>> Its the latter to which I believe you refer.
>>>>
>>>> We used do this keeping all versions of api doc up on the website.
>>>> After the switch to maven where we started to use it to generate our
>>>> site, we got lazy about keeping up old versions; rare did we change
>>>> major versions so it mattered little.  Around the same time as our
>>>> switch to maven, we moved to use docbook instead of xdoc+wiki keeping
>>>> up our documentation.  We've been busy back-filling out the reference
>>>> guide -- well, Doug has mostly -- with explanation and for the most
>>>> part its been non-version specific, or rather its all been about
>>>

> The high-level overview and some usage was up on hbaseblog (Mingjie,
> do you have the original content?  Perhaps we could rehydrate your
> articles as content in hbase book?)

I have an offline version, and can recover it back with the latest
changes to apache hbase blog.

>>   shouldn't development document, architecture design be in the
>> wiki/official hbase site instead of pointers to external blog, or in JIRA?
>
> Yes.
>
> IIRC, it was done as wiki article before it was committed to code-base.

For CP, it's not exactly to wiki. I used to write the details to the
package-info.java. Thanks for the reminder and we also need to keep the
package file update with the latest changes. Will open jira for it.

Thanks,
Mingjie

On Tue, Dec 27, 2011 at 1:29 AM, Mingjie Lai <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>> The high-level overview and some usage was up on hbaseblog (Mingjie,
>> do you have the original content?  Perhaps we could rehydrate your
>> articles as content in hbase book?)
>
>
> I have an offline version, and can recover it back with the latest changes
> to apache hbase blog.
>

That's be sweet Mingjie.  Thanks boss.

St.Ack