Hadoop, mail # general - Re: Interesting: bigdata is a registered trademark

Interesting: bigdata is a registered trademark

Shane Curcuru 2011-08-05, 01:13

I just saw this site, where SYSTAP has a bigdata (r) registered
trademark on their, um, Big Data related software product:

http://www.bigdata.com/bigdata/blog/

- Shane

Re: Interesting: bigdata is a registered trademark

Ted Dunning 2011-08-05, 15:54

There is a significant chance that they haven't actually registered this as
a trademark and simply don't know what (R) means.

On Thu, Aug 4, 2011 at 9:13 PM, Shane Curcuru <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> I just saw this site, where SYSTAP has a bigdata (r) registered trademark
> on their, um, Big Data related software product:
>
> http://www.bigdata.com/**bigdata/blog/<http://www.bigdata.com/bigdata/blog/>
>
> - Shane
>

Re: Interesting: bigdata is a registered trademark

Shane Curcuru 2011-08-05, 16:02

http://tarr.uspto.gov/servlet/tarr?regser=serial&entry=78980206
http://tarr.uspto.gov/servlet/tarr?regser=serial&entry=78926399

- Shane

On 8/5/2011 11:54 AM, Ted Dunning wrote:
> There is a significant chance that they haven't actually registered this
> as a trademark and simply don't know what (R) means.
>
> On Thu, Aug 4, 2011 at 9:13 PM, Shane Curcuru <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> wrote:
>
> I just saw this site, where SYSTAP has a bigdata (r) registered
> trademark on their, um, Big Data related software product:
>
> http://www.bigdata.com/__bigdata/blog/
> <http://www.bigdata.com/bigdata/blog/>
>
> - Shane
>
>

Re: Interesting: bigdata is a registered trademark

Ted Dunning 2011-08-05, 16:04

Bleah.

Looks like mahout and hadoop projects need to be careful to put a space in
there.

On Fri, Aug 5, 2011 at 12:02 PM, Shane Curcuru <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> http://tarr.uspto.gov/servlet/**tarr?regser=serial&entry=**78980206<http://tarr.uspto.gov/servlet/tarr?regser=serial&entry=78980206>
> http://tarr.uspto.gov/servlet/**tarr?regser=serial&entry=**78926399<http://tarr.uspto.gov/servlet/tarr?regser=serial&entry=78926399>
>
> - Shane
>
>
> On 8/5/2011 11:54 AM, Ted Dunning wrote:
>
>> There is a significant chance that they haven't actually registered this
>> as a trademark and simply don't know what (R) means.
>>
>> On Thu, Aug 4, 2011 at 9:13 PM, Shane Curcuru <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> wrote:
>>
>> I just saw this site, where SYSTAP has a bigdata (r) registered
>> trademark on their, um, Big Data related software product:
>>
>> http://www.bigdata.com/__**bigdata/blog/<http://www.bigdata.com/__bigdata/blog/>
>> <http://www.bigdata.com/**bigdata/blog/<http://www.bigdata.com/bigdata/blog/>
>> >
>>
>> - Shane
>>
>>
>>
>

Re: Interesting: bigdata is a registered trademark

Jay Booth 2011-08-05, 16:27

Noone's trademarked LinkedList or HashMap yet. Calling my lawyer, brb.

On Fri, Aug 5, 2011 at 12:04 PM, Ted Dunning <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Bleah.
>
> Looks like mahout and hadoop projects need to be careful to put a space in
> there.
>
> On Fri, Aug 5, 2011 at 12:02 PM, Shane Curcuru <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>> http://tarr.uspto.gov/servlet/**tarr?regser=serial&entry=**78980206<http://tarr.uspto.gov/servlet/tarr?regser=serial&entry=78980206>
>> http://tarr.uspto.gov/servlet/**tarr?regser=serial&entry=**78926399<http://tarr.uspto.gov/servlet/tarr?regser=serial&entry=78926399>
>>
>> - Shane
>>
>>
>> On 8/5/2011 11:54 AM, Ted Dunning wrote:
>>
>>> There is a significant chance that they haven't actually registered this
>>> as a trademark and simply don't know what (R) means.
>>>
>>> On Thu, Aug 4, 2011 at 9:13 PM, Shane Curcuru <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>> <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> wrote:
>>>
>>> I just saw this site, where SYSTAP has a bigdata (r) registered
>>> trademark on their, um, Big Data related software product:
>>>
>>> http://www.bigdata.com/__**bigdata/blog/<http://www.bigdata.com/__bigdata/blog/>
>>> <http://www.bigdata.com/**bigdata/blog/<http://www.bigdata.com/bigdata/blog/>
>>> >
>>>
>>> - Shane
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>

RE: Interesting: bigdata is a registered trademark

Segel, Mike 2011-08-05, 17:00

Don't be so Cavalier.
'Big Data' and 'BigData' are similar enough that if they were talking about the same thing, you would still get sued and the odds are they would win.

You would have to talk to a lawyer, but it gets more in to a question of what or how you define Big Data.

Is there going to be confusion of what is meant by 'BigData' and 'Big Data'. At the same time one could probably challenge the trademark.

Its definitely interesting.

-----Original Message-----
From: Ted Dunning [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, August 05, 2011 11:05 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Interesting: bigdata is a registered trademark

Bleah.

Looks like mahout and hadoop projects need to be careful to put a space in there.

On Fri, Aug 5, 2011 at 12:02 PM, Shane Curcuru <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> http://tarr.uspto.gov/servlet/**tarr?regser=serial&entry=**78980206<ht
> tp://tarr.uspto.gov/servlet/tarr?regser=serial&entry=78980206>
> http://tarr.uspto.gov/servlet/**tarr?regser=serial&entry=**78926399<ht
> tp://tarr.uspto.gov/servlet/tarr?regser=serial&entry=78926399>
>
> - Shane
>
>
> On 8/5/2011 11:54 AM, Ted Dunning wrote:
>
>> There is a significant chance that they haven't actually registered
>> this as a trademark and simply don't know what (R) means.
>>
>> On Thu, Aug 4, 2011 at 9:13 PM, Shane Curcuru <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> wrote:
>>
>> I just saw this site, where SYSTAP has a bigdata (r) registered
>> trademark on their, um, Big Data related software product:
>>
>> http://www.bigdata.com/__**bigdata/blog/<http://www.bigdata.com/__bigdata/blog/>
>>
>> <http://www.bigdata.com/**bigdata/blog/<http://www.bigdata.com/bigdat
>> a/blog/>
>> >
>>
>> - Shane
>>
>>
>>
>
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RE: Interesting: bigdata is a registered trademark

Segel, Mike 2011-08-05, 17:13

I should add. In terms of Hadoop, 'Big Data' is a term to describe the problem set and not any specific product.
So in that context, I wouldn't worry too much, depending on how litigious SYSTAP can get. Of course, who are they going to sue?
-----Original Message-----
From: Segel, Mike [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, August 05, 2011 12:00 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: Interesting: bigdata is a registered trademark

Don't be so Cavalier.
'Big Data' and 'BigData' are similar enough that if they were talking about the same thing, you would still get sued and the odds are they would win.

You would have to talk to a lawyer, but it gets more in to a question of what or how you define Big Data.

Is there going to be confusion of what is meant by 'BigData' and 'Big Data'. At the same time one could probably challenge the trademark.

Its definitely interesting.

-----Original Message-----
From: Ted Dunning [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, August 05, 2011 11:05 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Interesting: bigdata is a registered trademark

Bleah.

Looks like mahout and hadoop projects need to be careful to put a space in there.

On Fri, Aug 5, 2011 at 12:02 PM, Shane Curcuru <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> http://tarr.uspto.gov/servlet/**tarr?regser=serial&entry=**78980206<ht
> tp://tarr.uspto.gov/servlet/tarr?regser=serial&entry=78980206>
> http://tarr.uspto.gov/servlet/**tarr?regser=serial&entry=**78926399<ht
> tp://tarr.uspto.gov/servlet/tarr?regser=serial&entry=78926399>
>
> - Shane
>
>
> On 8/5/2011 11:54 AM, Ted Dunning wrote:
>
>> There is a significant chance that they haven't actually registered
>> this as a trademark and simply don't know what (R) means.
>>
>> On Thu, Aug 4, 2011 at 9:13 PM, Shane Curcuru <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> wrote:
>>
>> I just saw this site, where SYSTAP has a bigdata (r) registered
>> trademark on their, um, Big Data related software product:
>>
>>
>> http://www.bigdata.com/__**bigdata/blog/<http://www.bigdata.com/__big
>> data/blog/>
>>
>> <http://www.bigdata.com/**bigdata/blog/<http://www.bigdata.com/bigdat
>> a/blog/>
>> >
>>
>> - Shane
>>
>>
>>
>
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Re: Interesting: bigdata is a registered trademark

Owen O'Malley 2011-08-05, 17:17

On Fri, Aug 5, 2011 at 12:13 PM, Segel, Mike <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> I should add. In terms of Hadoop, 'Big Data' is a term to describe the
> problem set and not any specific product.
>

It is probably worth ensuring that we use "big data" with no caps to make it
clear we are using the descriptive term rather than a product name of any
kind.

-- Owen

Re: Interesting: bigdata is a registered trademark

Daniel Sikar 2011-08-06, 19:04

> Noone's trademarked LinkedList or HashMap yet. Calling my lawyer, brb.

Any<sup>TM</sup> luck<sup>TM</sup>?

On 5 August 2011 13:27, Jay Booth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Noone's trademarked LinkedList or HashMap yet. Calling my lawyer, brb.
>
> On Fri, Aug 5, 2011 at 12:04 PM, Ted Dunning <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> Bleah.
>>
>> Looks like mahout and hadoop projects need to be careful to put a space in
>> there.
>>
>> On Fri, Aug 5, 2011 at 12:02 PM, Shane Curcuru <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>
>>> http://tarr.uspto.gov/servlet/**tarr?regser=serial&entry=**78980206<http://tarr.uspto.gov/servlet/tarr?regser=serial&entry=78980206>
>>> http://tarr.uspto.gov/servlet/**tarr?regser=serial&entry=**78926399<http://tarr.uspto.gov/servlet/tarr?regser=serial&entry=78926399>
>>>
>>> - Shane
>>>
>>>
>>> On 8/5/2011 11:54 AM, Ted Dunning wrote:
>>>
>>>> There is a significant chance that they haven't actually registered this
>>>> as a trademark and simply don't know what (R) means.
>>>>
>>>> On Thu, Aug 4, 2011 at 9:13 PM, Shane Curcuru <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>>> <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> I just saw this site, where SYSTAP has a bigdata (r) registered
>>>> trademark on their, um, Big Data related software product:
>>>>
>>>> http://www.bigdata.com/__**bigdata/blog/<http://www.bigdata.com/__bigdata/blog/>
>>>> <http://www.bigdata.com/**bigdata/blog/<http://www.bigdata.com/bigdata/blog/>
>>>> >
>>>>
>>>> - Shane
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>